From:   "niel fagan", [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>Some believe that cameras stop crime, personally I don't.
>At most it "moves crime on".It will not stop the thug
>smacking that old man or woman for their pension.
>
>It may have helped the police id Hamilton by his clothes,
>depending on the condition of his head,
>
>BUT A CAMERA WOULD NOT HAVE STOPPED HIM!!!!

Just clearing out my stored mail log and found this interesting,
As some know I work in an educational establishment, the incidence of 
violent crimes against persons and property here has been growing at a most 
alarming rate recently, talking to the chief security officers staff 
yesterday was most enlightening.

During the day there are 5 staff on the main campus, one is commited to 
watching the monitors, one in a car *supervising*, one on foot putting 
parking enforcement notices on parked cars and two keeping the odd-bods from 
parking in the wrong place outside the admin. building.
At night this drops to 2, one on the monitors one in the car. Away from the 
main campus there are more officers, 4 in one location (2 at night) because 
of the risk of bodies (human) being stolen/damaged, and another location has 
6 during the day and 4 at night as they have an MOD research contract....
Some outlying areas have no security staff at all, the biggest fears of the 
women I spoke to were the risk of violent assault/rape returning to their 
cars after work in the dark, for the unaware freshers this time of year is 
VERY dangerous (male as well as female).
Why so few security staff? After putting up CCTV (without IR illuminators so 
they are useless at night) the admin. people reduced the funding as they 
were no longer needed!
The chief security officer visited another location along the coast and 
found 3 times the staff plus, CCTV with IR illumination, car-parks that were 
not just lit, but flood-lighted (he knows we have a problem), but as usual 
the money men have ruled that cameras are cheaper than staff and "more 
effective".

It seems that the money men like cameras, cheaper than people (who are an 
actual deterent in most situations) and when linked to speed sensors etc 
revenue earners, I also suspect that if Blair and Straw succeed in making 
the police a nation-wide force, rather than the more local ones we have now, 
the spread of big brothers cameras and reduced police patrolling (petrol is 
SO expensive) will mean more no-go areas....

And just think your face will be known to the central computer so your 
movements can/will? be monitored realtime, will it summon an ARV just 
because I'm walking my son to school (known firearms certificate holder too 
near to children), will it cancel/down-grade a schools calls for help with 
an intruder because they are not?

Niel, just a little concerned.


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