I meant "standard" as in Joe Blow goes into a shop and his PC
has it on there, rather than an RFC which has been around for yonks,
you're right.

Microsoft tells me it won't ship with Win2K until next year at least,
there is support for it in the DNS that ships with it though.

I know there are ways to get crypto keys from a to b, I was thinking
along the lines of the IPSec keys which as far as I know have to be
manually input, so to know it you either have to send the IPSec key
by some other means which can be detected, or use some other method
of crypto which is unlikely as why bother with IPSec otherwise!

Steve.

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