From:   "Jeff Wood", [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Terry Pendrous wrote:

What puzzles me about this gross stupidity by
the MOD is as sure as god made little apples, some time in the
near future they will need ranges again to train personnel for
a conflict.



The cock-up theory of history usually works more often than the conspiracy,
but in this case the answer to Terry's question may be a mixture of the two.

We could start with the knowledge that both world wars were not won by the
regular forces. In fact they were nearly lost, respectively in 1914 and
1940. The wars were subsequently won by the civilians, in or out of uniform.

Given this lesson of history, one would expect to find in this country a
population routinely skilled in the use of small arms, the basic infantry
weaponry. They would be backed up by a network of ranges, sympathetic
firearms laws, and government support.

I understand we once had this environment, along with a much healthier gun
culture in which massacres did not take place, and criminals rarely resorted
to firearms.

My feeling is that two things happened though not at once. First, in the
1950s, governments chose bombs over men, because hydrogen bombs were cheaper
and more biddable. The ability to end conscription by the 1960s probably
made the decision more popular (at least until the Cuban missile crisis) and
as a result, a whole generation missed military service and firearms
training. Conscription was not replaced by a "militia" approach to defence
in depth, and I have seen for myself how military men, with their access to
weapons of mass destruction, easily sneer at the pretensions of civilian
marksman with a sense of history.

As a result, the military became separated from the civilian population, but
not of course from the government machine. That partnership deepened,
especially as the war in Northern Ireland developed, and that part of the
machine we can call "Security" became active and more ambitious. I believe
this was the start of the second cause of our problems.

It is my opinion that the poison dripped into British society amounted to
much more than terrorist bombs. Out of the feverish co-operation and
competition among a pack of civilian and military security agencies was born
a mindset which Joe Stalin would have been proud of. Given modern
technology, the possibilities for surveillance and control of the civilian
population are in fact far greater than those available to Uncle Joe .

It so happened that in the 1980s we had a government and a Prime Minister
more than ready to countenance this new security machine. "Enemies" such as
the miners, CND, and real social enemies such as terrorists provided the
excuse to turn the security machine on the mainland population. Some chief
policemen enthusiastically joined in.

In all this, the existence of a significant armed group of civilians must
have stood out to the security planners, especially those in the Home
Office. I fancy too that self loading riflemen, and handgunners, show up as
more working-class than average, placing them firmly in the group of
Enemies. This last point is as relevant to our present rulers as to the
previous.

Disarming civilians thus becomes a matter of state policy. Leaving them with
nowhere to shoot is simply part of that process, so don't expect to see
military ranges being sold off to civilians.

Note too that there is no room under the regime I describe for target
shooting as a defence against further bans and confiscation. When the time
comes, a little shroud waving will take care of that pathetic plea, as we
saw after Dunblane.

No doubt the emergency Terry refers to will one day arise, not I think in my
lifetime, and probably not in that of my grown-up son. However, I am not
offering my grandson any written guarantees.


Yours sincerely

Jeff Wood
--
Actually I was thinking about this the other day when someone asked me
how many guns the police have.

The police have some 5,000-10,000 guns for operational use, based on the
fact that there are 7,200 AFOs and the majority are not routinely armed.

Obviously they have some of our handguns and guns they've taken off
criminals but I have no idea how many of them would be suitable for
military use, and pistols are marginal anyway.

Civilians have about 320,000 rifles, the vast bulk of which are .22s
and once again, not up to much in terms of military use.  There are
only a few thousand Section 1 shotguns and your average double-barrel
is totally outclassed by an assault rifle.

By comparison, the military has 380,000 SA80s, 25,000 pistols, and
tens of thousands of other firearms, plus hundreds of thousands of
SLRs and so on in reserve stores.

My thinking is that it wouldn't be very difficult to mount a military
coup in this country if the military were minded to do it.  They're
always moaning about crap kit and crap pay and getting no respect and
being over stretched by the Govt. and being sent to places they don't
care about, etc.

It would be pretty difficult to stop.  I can just see that pratt
George Robertson going: "Well, no-one expected this to happen in
this day and age", like he did with the massacres in Kosovo.

See how happy the Army is when they start putting women in infantry
units.

Steve.

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