....

....camp lejeune?
That's contaminated water dude!
oh,  you just rode thru it----lucky you did not drink it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Lejeune_water_contamination

I bet both sand and mud are pretty bad for cycle components.  And
I bet most of the mud at LeJeune has quite a bit of sand particles in its
composition.





On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Whalen, Kevin <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Not sand but MUD! Worst ride was when we got caught in a torrential
> downpour during an XC race at Camp Lejeune. Wore out a set of disc brake
> pads to the metal. Almost toasted the bottom bracket and had to replace the
> shift cables afterwards. The water was hub deep in some of the "high ground"
> sections. Cynthia almost got washed away going over a bridge...spooky ride
> that was.
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ronnie Raper
> *Sent:* Friday, March 25, 2011 3:25 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [COWs] My Thursday thumps
>
>  That could be due to the different type of dust/debris being thrown up
> into the chain that grinds away at it. Sandy trails are probably the worst.
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Whalen, Kevin
> *Sent:* Friday, March 25, 2011 3:17 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [COWs] My Thursday thumps
>
>
>
> I agree with Ronnie on keeping the drive train clean/lubed...although I
> have noticed a difference (yes on a mtb) with riding on different trails and
> chain life. When I rode certain trails it seemed I'd wear out the chains
> quicker (no not due to jumping, just riding, Mark). I wish I could get 2
> years off of a chain though! And the cassette...I replaced it when I ripped
> the small ring off sprinting after Ethan.
>
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ronnie Raper
> *Sent:* Friday, March 25, 2011 2:34 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [COWs] My Thursday thumps
>
> It depends. How clean & lubricated you keep the drivetrain will affect the
> lifespan dramatically. How hard you ride isn’t as big a factor as how much.
>
>
>
> I clean my drivetrain roughly every 200 -300 miles.
>
>
>
> I generally have to replace the chain every 2 years. I’ve replaced the
> cassette once (last year) since I’ve had the madone.
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Glover, Jeff
> *Sent:* Friday, March 25, 2011 2:13 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [COWs] My Thursday thumps
>
>
>
> Survey question: What is the effective life of a chain?  What is the
> effective life of a cassette?
>
>
>
> Jeff
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ronnie Raper
> *Sent:* Friday, March 25, 2011 7:42 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [COWs] My thursday thumps
>
>
>
> If the chain has “stretched” > 1/16th of inch, replace. Check by holding
> 12 inch ruler against chain lining up the first inch mark with the rivet.
> Look at the 12” mark and see how far the rivet is past it. You wait too long
> to replace you will be replacing your cassette much too soon as well.
>
>
>
> Don has had bad experience with Shimano chains. In my experience KMC or
> SRAM are much better and hold up. They also have the “quick link” for easy
> removal and cleaning. They both are fully compatible with Shimano components
> as I have Ultegra and Dura-Ace and have had no problems whatsoever.
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *ssp
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:42 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [COWs] My thursday thumps
>
>
>
> ....
>
>
>
>
>
> sorry to hear of the trails and tribulations.
>
>
>
> stardude,  you had a chain tool w/ you on your bike wed night
>
> when you got to checkers?  And then proceeded to reduce the length
>
> of your chain by 1 link and then road ~25 miles?    The chain length does
> not
>
> have to be that precise of a length?  Interesting for me since I am
>
> getting on up in miles on my chain and think I need to put a new one
>
> on.  Have been researching how to do it.  Don does not sell shimano
>
> chains so I have decided to try it myself.
>
>
>
> Lately there have been many chain horror stories.  Prefer not to have
>
> to replace cogs cause of chain wear.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Tim & Susan <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I broke my chain last night.  Whipped out my chain tool, took out the bad
> link, put it back together then rode to Bailey!  Tools are great!  :)
>
>
>
> Good luck this weekend!!!
>
>
>
> tim
>
>
>
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Derek Belhumeur <[email protected]>
>
> *To:* [email protected]
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2011 7:24 PM
>
> *Subject:* [COWs] My thursday thumps
>
>
>
> Ahh the wonders of a busted chain, bent rim and blown tire with a race
> coming up in two days.  So, here I sit in my living room on my laptop after
> having gotten to OSB to reach for my front tire to place it on my bike only
> to find out that the tire was flat and the rim bent.  I rush home, take the
> rim and tire from my old Trek 1.2 and throw it in the back of my car and
> head back to OSB.  I jump out, slap my helmet, gloves and shoes on, place
> the front tire on my bike and take off in route to Cloverdale to meet up
> with the other riders.  I arrive with a few minutes to spare.  Phew!  At
> least I made it.  We leave Cloverdale, life is good because I'm in good
> company and on the bike with the road ahead of me.  Life couldn't get any
> better and nothing could go wrong... or could it???  We arrive at the
> intersection of Nash and Grace St across from the cemetary.  Cars left, cars
> right.  Finally the path is clear for us to cross Nash Street and to
> continue on, however, my chain had different plans for me. I snap my left
> shoe in and attempt to snap my right in, however, my pedals will not
> continue to cycle.  I make it to the turning lane in the center of the road
> and get off my bike.  I look down and realize that I had a busted chain only
> to look back up and realize that the rest of my fellow Thursday riders are
> already down the road and out of ear shot.  What a night.  Thank goodness
> for wives and cell phones.
>
>
>
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