I'll also chime in as a lurker to say that you have kicked some major ass for us Cygwin/XFree86 users, Harold, and I think you've been nothing but helpful and responsive on the list. I think your plea on the XFree86 list was reasonable. Good luck as you explore other options.
Harold L Hunt II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Egbert, > > Egbert Eich wrote: > >> Harold, >> I find it sad that you had to make this decision. >> I've just been absent for a little more than two weeks and >> was unable to commit patches - look what came out of it. > > Egbert, I am sorry, I want to make it absolutely clear that my raising > the issue with XFree86.org and subsequent decision had nothing to do > with you. You were actually a great help to me, I appreciate the work > that you did with me very much. There was a larger problem > here... one that had nothing to do with you. > >> I understand that the level of frustration among contributors >> has risen to a point that people are starting to use bad words. >> I've tried to get support from individual core team members >> for giving you commit rights. After I was unable to do so (maybe >> I asked the wrong ones) I decided to no longer persue the issue. >> None of the initiatives I've made so far have been accepted. > > I appreciate that Egbert. That really gets to the heart of the > matter: this isn't about cvs commit access, this is about the > arbitrary, subjective, and unresponsive manner in which the project is > being managed. > >> I don't understand why people cannot deal with issues on the >> pragmatic level by looking at how one can best distribute >> the workload so that the burdeon on each individual volunteer >> is reduced. > > I really wish they could have seen that too. > >> The discussion always turns to who owes what to whom. This is >> the wrong question. All or most of us are volunteers. Therefore >> noone owes anything to anybody. >> I get more and more the impression that David is working on >> narrowing down the scope of XFree86. There are alternatives in sight >> and I hope something will be in place before too long that will >> again serve a place where >> people interested in X can meet and work together. > > Yes, I am beginning to work with some other developers who have left > XFree86.org as well. It is so unfortunate that XFree86.org is pushing > away developers one-by-one, only to assemble the same group > elsewhere. That is a pointless waste of time; that sort of thing > should not have to happen. > > I was a little surprised too to see that my request was interpreted as > being owed something :) Jeez, not only is the process of getting cvs > commit access undefined, it is a veritable mine field; you cannot > possibly ask in a humble enough manner for their taste. > > Anyhow, I want to reiterate again that I enjoy working with you Egbert > and that I hope we continue to work together in the future. > > Thanks for your input, > > Harold -- Jason Dufair - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dufair.org/ "Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana." -- Groucho Marx