On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Andreas Eibach wrote:
> - Most people would use startx to start the X Window session as they're used
> to it from Linux.
> Strangely though, startx does NOT open a "real" X main window, but an xterm
> ONLY.
> Is there a reason why? I think it's misleading.
Many people requested that startx would use the multiwindow mode instead of the
single window mode. So the startup scripts were changed to reflect that.
> xinit, however, does the thing that *I* want, that is, a big window that
> fills the whole screen and launches an xterm on the upper left edge.
you can customize how xinit (and startx) start xserver and clients.
Add a $HOME/.xserverrc which start XWin without the -multiwindow option but the
-scrollbars options and $HOME/.xinitrc which is the same as the one in
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc but which starts an additional windowmanager.
> Unfortunately, the window is not resizable.
There is an option -scrollbars which might do that (resizable window and
scrollbars
to adjust the position)
> However, with the old framebuffer-based experimental X version, I remember a
> pre-installed window manager *with* pull-down menus. I managed to load a
> window manager (by typing /usr/X11R6/bin/twm &), but there were still no
> pull-down menus. I like(d) fvwm / fvwm2 a lot and it had everything I needed
> in X.
The cygwin distribution contains windowmaker and I remember users which
used openbox too.
> I hope that I do not need Gnome to be able to work reasonably with X? I like
> menus, but I do not need a Windoze-ish task bar; I never needed it in Linux
> anyway.
> I also found all Cygwin-X start menu entries EMPTY, hence I assume that
> Cygwin X expects from me that I want Gnome (which I do not need in any case,
> at least not now :))
They usually contain links to programs from the xorg-x11-bin package.
bye
ago
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