Am 07.05.2016 um 03:41 schrieb Warren Young:
On May 6, 2016, at 3:53 AM, Thomas Wolff <t...@towo.net> wrote:
after a recent fresh installation of cygwin, I was surprised that `cmp` was
missing, which is part of the traditional Unix base commands.
I think the diffutils package should be part of the base installation.
We’ve never really had a hard rule on what is in Base and what isn’t. It’s
always been a judgement call.
I wonder if the rule should just be “POSIX”? That is, if it’s on this page, it
should be in Base:
http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/idx/utilities.html
That would exclude other things we’ve always excluded, such as Perl.
I’m not suggesting that we make this rule a strict one. Most importantly, it
cannot be an exclusion rule: Cygwin must contain things not in POSIX. I’m just
suggesting that it would be nice if Cygwin were as close to POSIX as practical
out-of-the-box.
By that latter, I mean without extra effort other than adjusting some
setup.hint files. I mean, if there is a command on that list that doesn’t even
have a Cygwin package, I don’t mean to propose with this rule that someone must
go out and package it just to satisfy POSIX.
As a counterexample, that list contains pax(1), which is currently in Archive,
not Base, so by that rule, pax(1) should also move to Base.
By that very example, though, I can argue against this proposed rule: as I
understand it, pax(1) was added to POSIX at the same time they dropped cpio(1)
and tar(1), thinking that by doing so, they’d change existing practice, moving
everyone over to pax(1). That just created a Standard in the XKCD sense:
https://xkcd.com/927/
Thanks, Warren, for some metaphysical insights :)
Right, there isn't and shouldn't be a strict rule. But maybe there can
be a guideline, and more a guideline of common practice than of a 15th
standard. By decade-long practice as a Unix user, I was simply expecting
cmp to be basic, like I would expect tar. Maybe others would agree with
that, or maybe not...
Cheers
Thomas
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