On Thursday 04 April 2002 11:02 am, CDR Anonymizer wrote: > Does anyone know if there exists a tool to perform SSL at the > firewall level instead of at the browser so that I can watch my > charges' internet downloading? I don't want to spy on them I only > want to spy on those that do something they're not supposed to.
Bullshit. If you don't want SSL going through the firewall, then block port 443. Otherwise keep your nose out of conversations that do not involve you. > As you well know, we can't have our most precious national resource, > our children, talking to strangers about their sex lives, real or imagined. And as a "national resourse" they will get clear-cut at the first opertunity. > 'Cyber' is not funny, 'cyber' is not harmless. What they _think_ is > a 15yo high school student in Pasadena _could in fact_ be a 19yo > college student in *their* town. Any why do they not already know this??? THAT is the lession you should be teaching, not "I can and will spy on you at every possible moment". > I won't abuse the system to get their hotmail passwords and read > their mail, because we've already blocked hotmail.com and made them > use mail and chat in which we can protect them from their baser urges. > But they keep getting out over https:// and now there's this new > Peek-at-booty that disguises itself as a credit card # upload. Bullshit again. If you can abuse it, you will. If you won't, someone else will. Besides. SSL is resistant to "man-in-the-middle attacks" just like you are proposing. > Although we have already dusted off our nuclear evacuation manuals > in order to teach our children what to do if the sky starts to fall, > 'duck and cover' will not cut it on the Internet. We must co-operate > unquestioningly if we are to protect our nation's future from child > sex predators and advocates of child sex predators. Instead of letting your little brats run loose on the net, or trying to dumb things down to make it "safe" for them, why not teach them how to handle it. Childhood is a time to prepare children for adulthood. it is not a mystical playtime where they are to be protected in some sort of foam-padded wrapping and kept from all bad influences. The reason that there are fucked up people out there is because people like you fucked them up while they were young. You did not teach them the lessons they needed and instilled fear, uncertainty and a god-instilled fear of their own biology. > A child's life may be in your hands at this very instant. > Think about it. If you are that paniced about the situation, you need to do a couple of things: 1) Get a grip. 2) Find a nice decaf coffee. 3) Get another job. Such paranoia will not help your students. It will only make them (rightfully) mistrust you and work harder to go behind your back. > A Responsible K-12 Sysadmin That I seriously doubt... Ohterwise you would not be posting here through an anonymous account. Children need to be taught that they don't meet people they don't know without others there to help them out in case they are whackos. (Actually such a plan is good at any age.) If they don't know that by fifteen, then you have failed in their education and should find some other line of work, as well as not breed yourself.
