> Tim May[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
> 
> Here's a minor digression into something which I occasionally think 
> about: whether it's useful to take detailed notes at conferences (or 
> classrooms, for that matter) or just listen intently.
> 
> On Tuesday, October 29, 2002, at 07:11  AM, Trei, Peter wrote:
> >
> > A 6 hour fuel cell would alleviate this problem. What
> > it would be even better for is conferences - at Usenix
> > etal, people get very creative in trying to be usefully
> > near the speaker *and* a socket (Hint: there are usually
> > powerbars inside the bases of video monitors and speaker
> > stacks).
> 
> Item: At most Cypherpunks meetings someone is sitting with their laptop 
> open, recording notes (or whatever). I usually wonder what they plan to 
> do with the notes...not in any paranoid sense, just wondering if 
> they'll ever look at the notes again, and why.
> 
I rarely get to cpunk meetings :-( , but I agree - paper notes of high level
concepts and pointers to find out more (usually URLs and email addresses)
are the best things to write down. 

> Item: I notice that the note-takers aren't as involved in the give and 
> take of discussion as others are. Partly this may be their nature 
> (correlated with their note-taking in some way), partly this may be 
> their focus on their notes, and partly this may be logistical (they're 
> still typing, they will have to put down their laptop to stand or 
> gesture or whatever it is that active participants do).
> 
I think part of what's happening is that presentations fit the pattern
of a university lecture. Most of us have at least 4 years of
daily experience taking lecture notes, and it becomes a habit.

> Item: At conferences, where companies may require detailed trip 
> reports, note-taking can be very important. (Though, when I was 
> attending conferences for Intel, it was more important to learn bits of 
> scuttlebutt out in the lobby than it was to hear some boring 
> presentation inside the auditorium. And tape-recording was usually 
> better for capturing details anyway. Getting copies of the slides was a 
> win, too. I assume that some conference speakers are now distributing 
> slides _during_ the presentation, via 802.11, allowing those with 
> laptops to follow along in real-time. And the slides are usually at a 
> fixed site.)
> 
I've done this, and it's very useful. The usual format is zipped Powerpoint,
and occasionally PDF or HTML. However, the slides are often difficult to
follow without the accompanying speech, so I take notes about stuff
that *isn't* on the slides. I wish more presenters would include their
remarks with (but not on) the slides.

> Item: Note-taking can also be useful in maintaining alertness! Many 
> times I have been bored to tears with speakers, and only the keeping of 
> notes (pen and paper, or laptop) kept me awake.
> 
There are many times when I'm only interested in a part of a talk. While
waiting through the 'boring bits', 802.11 access allows me to catch up
on my email, check slashdot, etc. 

[...]

> Lastly, in the past several airline flights I have taken with my 
> laptop, I have never opened it and used it. Granted, I didn't _need_ 
> to. But I always have more reading to do than laptopping to do, so 
> reading on a flight works for me. (I accept that business travelers may 
> choose to do more laptopping than reading.)
> 
Aside from 'work-related' laptopping, I play Nethack, listen to mp3s,
do fun programming, and watch DVDs (the latter is a godsend if 
you travel with kids, in a plane or a car).

> --Tim May

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