On Tuesday, Feb 11, 2003, at 21:25 Europe/London, Harmon Seaver wrote:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 02:34:54PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:When you say "those" are you referring to bad acid trips? (Don't tell meExcept that there are so few of those no one has ever been able to quantify/qualify them, so we don't know what that really consists of.
you've never had one!)
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experiences which caused me to decide to stop taking "LSD". And very clearlyLSD has virtually zero physical toxicity but it's possible someone could die as a result of being hysterical or choking due to psychological stress. Not that likely to happen but there are cases.
remember someone locally who died in the emergency room after freaking out on
the same batch of acid that seemed quite weird to us, they gave him thorazine
and it killed him. Obviously it wasn't LSD.
It has been claimed that DOM ("STP") reacts badly with thorazine but this is now not thought to be the case.
It's far likely he died from the thorazine alone since it can cause cardiac arrest.
I then came into a large quantity of peyote -- shazaam, no moreThere have been documented seizures of DOB on blotter (particularly in Australia with its traditionally high street cost of LSD).
weirdness. Likewise mushrooms, ayahuasca, etc. And that is why, essentially,
blotter acid came into being, because you can't get enough of anything else but
LSD on that tiny piece of paper to do *anything*, so it's safe.
DOB is a psychedelic which both closely resembles LSD in its effects and approaches LSD in potency (a few hundred micrograms). DOB, unlike most psychedelic drugs like LSD, can be physically toxic but at a massive overdose level (~100 milligrams) which probably wouldn't fit on a blotter.
There are a lot more known drugs active at the LSD level in 2002 than 1967 but as a rough rule of thumb you are probably still basically right. The blotter is most likely to contain LSD (often as the freebase) or nothing at all.
BTW blotter is unstable and likely to have a short shelf life. Microdots (containing salts) are likely to last for years.
I think you are just generalising from your personal experience which may not hold for others.I'll grant, however, that bad trips seem to occur much more on 'cid than on natural substances.
It's just the same as some people claiming particular alcoholic drinks are better or worse than others.
The key thing about these drugs is the effects are intensively subjective and highly unpredictable. The dosage level is more likely to be related to adverse effects than the particular psychedelic drug used.
In double blind tests, where neither the doctor nor the subject knows which drug is which, people can't distinguish major psychedelic drugs anyway. The only clear distinction is the duration of drug effect which does vary.
This is usually denied by users of these drugs despite numerous studies supporting this since the late 1960s.
Set and setting have more to do with it than anything. People who partake in
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