J.A. Terranson wrote:

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Tim May wrote:



But when Big Brother commands that his Carnivore boxes be added, ISPs are afraid to shoot his agents who trespass.



Just for the record, as someone who is in a position to have first-hand personal knowledge of this...

When the various plastic-id carrying critters came around asking to let ISPs
install Carnivores just after 9/11, they were almost all turned away.  The
notable exceptions were from companies that are (not surprisingly) based
outside of the US.

I was *stunned* at how many ISPs told them to fuck off (including, I am happy
to say, the one I work at)..


So in other words, Tim May doesn't know what the hell he's talking about (again)!


I think my solution may be best: take a few ISPs who have bent over for Big Brother and kill their owners and staff. A few ISP owners found necklaced and smoking may send a message to others. It works for the Mob in a way none of the more civilized approaches can possibly work.

"You narc us out, we douse your children with gasoline and light them off. Your choice."

Sometimes freedom demands harshness.


Tim May is the perfect example why vigilante justice is generally considered to be a bad thing -- stupid assholes like Tim May spout off & take action based on paranoia instead of facts & principles of anarchy instead of justice and innocent parties get hurt.


--Tim May



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