On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, James A. Donald wrote: > On 18 Dec 2003 at 19:09, J.A. Terranson wrote: > > And all of this is meaningless: we simply had no right to > > invade a foreign, *sovereign* nation. > > Although you probably do not know it, you are invoking the > rules of the peace of Westphalia. > > The Soviet Union never respected the peace of Westphalia.
Which was evil. > After the election of Ronald Reagan, neither did the US, Living proof that you can become what you hate. > and > the US has never resumed respecting it, so that stuff is > ancient history now. So what you are saying is that we have become the Soviet Union? > National Sovereignty, like the divine > right of kings, just is not taken seriously any more, and the > only people weeping big salt tears about its passing are those > who enthusiastically hailed all the Soviet violations of it as > wars of national liberation. Spare me. I was no Soviet apologist. And until Reagan I was a dyed in the wool republican. Yet, I shed and continue to shed tears for a race of people that refuses to respect the rights of men and their nations. Like the Soviets. Or [now], the Americans... > --digsig > James A. Donald > 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG > MG21u2rXbbd8Gv6a0KI33gOfB0dq3Rj0+8QLf9Zu > 475GB3UNm+fRK0Tmju1skiWzb5gB5QGgnIdyidhHM > -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Unbridled nationalism, as distinguished from a sane and legitimate patriotism, must give way to a wider loyalty, to the love of humanity as a whole. Bah'u'llh's statement is: "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." The Promise of World Peace http://www.us.bahai.org/interactive/pdaFiles/pwp.htm