>From: "J.A. Terranson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>As recently as two years ago, I had a classroom full of cops (mostly fedz
>from various well-known alphabets) who knew *nothing* about stego.  And I
>mean *NOTHING*.  They got a pretty shallow intro: here's a picture, and
>here's the secret message inside it, followed by an hour of theory and
>how-to's using the simplest of tools - every single one of them was just
>blown away. Actually, that's not true - the Postal Inspectors were bored,
>but everyone _else_ was floored.

But the real thing they needed to know was "there can be hidden information in 
files that look innocent" and what they need to do to find that hidden 
information.  I expect the answer to that will involve either shipping it off 
to some expert at the FBI (who will have to do some serious flow control, or 
he'll be receiving copies of all the video games on every small-time drug 
dealer's computer), or running some tools to look for the hidden data.  It's 
not like you're going to expect a random detective to learn how to cryptanalyze 
stego schemes, anymore than you're going to expect him to learn how to check 
for DNA matches in a lab.  He'll need to have some notion of how the technology 
works, and some rules of thumb for how to handle the evidence to keep from 
tainting it, and that's about it.  

>J.A. Terranson
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--John
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 10:19:37 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 12/10/2004 11:31:40 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


John,  Sorry about that. I'm very frustrated right now. It's not you...

||

..Not a good time of the year for heartache.   
John 

--

Well, today has been a sad ol' lonesome day
Yeah, today has been a sad ol' lonesome day
I'm just sittin' here thinking
With my mind a million miles away

Well, they're doing the double shuffle, throwin' sand on the floor
They're doing the double shuffle, they're throwin' sand on the floor
When I left my long-time darlin'
She was standing in the door

Well, my pa he died and left me, my brother got killed in the war
Well, my pa he died and left me, my brother got killed in the war
My sister, she ran off and got married
Never was heard of any more

Samantha Brown lived in my house for about four or five months
Samantha Brown lived in my house for about four or five months
Don't know how it looked to other people
I never slept with her even once

Well, the road's washed out - weather not fit for man or beast
Yeah the road's washed out - weather not fit for man or beast
Funny, how the things you have the hardest time parting with
Are the things you need the least

I'm forty miles from the mill - I'm droppin' it into overdrive
I'm forty miles from the mill - I'm droppin' it into overdrive
Settin' my dial on the radio
I wish my mother was still alive

I see your lover-man comin' - comin' 'cross the barren field
I see your lover-man comin' - comin' 'cross the barren field
He's not a gentleman at all - he's rotten to the core
He's a coward and he steals

Well my captain he's decorated - he's well schooled and he's skilled
My captain, he's decorated - he's well schooled and he's skilled
He's not sentimental - don't bother him at all
How many of his pals have been killed

Last night the wind was whisperin', I was trying to make out what it was
Last night the wind was whisperin' somethin' - I was trying to make out
what it was
I tell myself something's comin'
But it never does

I'm gonna spare the defeated - I'm gonna speak to the crowd
I'm gonna spare the defeated, boys, I'm going to speak to the crowd
I am goin' to teach peace to the conquered
I'm gonna tame the proud

Well the leaves are rustlin' in the wood - things are fallin' off of the
shelf
Leaves are rustlin' in the wood - things are fallin' off the shelf
You gonna need my help, sweetheart
You can't make love all by yourself

Bob Dylan,  'Lonesome Day Blues', _Love & Theft_
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somewhat related .. is there a good quick reference for python?
o'reilly has a quick ref guide 2nd ed is a few years old, and
the ones i have found on-line seem a bit big. I am looking for
something relatively concise that I can carry with me ... not
sure such a thing exists?

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>But how do they perform the same functions? For instance with a 
>multi-level nested repeat loop iterating over the contents with a 
>real multi-dimensional array? Or is there some equally convoluted 
>code to do that?

Troy, et al:

Look at the arrayMath & matrixMath handlers in Serendipity Library 
<http://wecode.org/serendipity/>.

The arrayMath function returns the source array with a specific value 
& operator applied to each element.  Operators supported are 
+,-,*,/,div,mod,^,log2,log10,acos,asin,atan,atan2,cos,sin,tan,bitAnd,bitOr, 
and bitXOr.

The matrixMath function returns an array resulting from the 
application of an operator and one element of the array on the 
corresponding element in a matching array.  Operators supported are 
+,-,*,/,div,mod,^,atan2,bitAnd,bitOr, and bitXOr.

My pseudo multidimensional arrays are currently slower than accessing 
each element by key; but the functionality works.
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Hallo,

> habe ein Problem.

verwende doch einen Repeater:
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Gruss

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Betreff: Villepin et la po�sie selon Velter et Beck (Nouvel Observateur)

         Semaine du jeudi 26 juin 2003 - n�2016 - Livres
A propos du livre de Dominique de Villepin

La po�sie en question

Deux po�tes, Andr� Velter et Philippe Beck, ont lu �Eloge des voleurs
de feu� (Galllimard), l�essai consacr� � la po�sie par le ministre des
Affaires �trang�res. Leurs avis divergent
------------------------------------------------------------------------
� Un livre-vertige � par Andr� Velter*
Etre ministre, ou attach� � une fonction de haute autorit�, semble
interdire, sauf � se conter une fable, d��habiter po�tiquement le
monde� ainsi que le voulait H�lderlin, et cela parfois jusqu�� la
folie. En revanche, �tre habit�, investi, hant� par la po�sie et porter
en soi le feu que d�autres ont vol� au m�pris des lois, des habitudes
et des pens�es communes, le livre-somme, le livre-parcours, le
livre-vertige de Dominique de Villepin en t�moigne avec une fougue et
une ferveur qui ne doivent rien � la diplomatie et ne s�apparentent
nullement � un exercice de style.
Il y a, dans ces 820 pages de galop et de fi�vre, une attirance
irr�pressible pour tous ceux, irr�ductibles, foudroy�s, irr�cup�rables,
maudits, qui n�ont jamais con�u le po�me comme un enclos textuel mais
comme un viatique risqu�. L�impulsion de l�auteur est si g�n�reuse
qu�il enr�le � l�occasion quelques chantres aphones, quelques scribes
�teints dans sa br�lante cohorte, mais qu�importe. Son plaidoyer n�est
pas celui d�un juge, pas m�me d�un avocat, c�est celui d�un amoureux
fou qui traque l��nigme de la passion qui l�exalte, le submerge, le
r�v�le par �clairs, �claircies ou commotions successives.
Aucune prudence ici, aucune retenue, peu de r�v�rence: une parole qui
extrait sa lumi�re du brasier et de la cendre, dans le sillage d�Orph�e
aux Enfers ou � l��coute des bouches d�ombre. Car cette lumi�re est
celle de tous les chants sur le qui-vive. Lumi�re irradiante,
alchimique ou cruelle qui ne cesse de d�fier l�ordre des mots et du
monde, avec une ligne de cr�te pour l�enchantement, une plaie ouverte
pour l�alarme.
Dominique de Villepin sait d�exp�rience que la po�sie v�cue m�ne �l� o�
l�on ne s�attend pas�. Aux c�t�s de Rimbaud et d�Artaud, il cite un
m�t�ore moins c�l�bre, Jean-Pierre Duprey, �suicid� de la soci�t� �
l��ge de 29 ans qui disait: �Moi, je n�aurais jamais d� me prendre les
pieds dans cette galaxie!� Mal�diction qui n�a pu que trouver un �cho
chez un pr�pos� aux affaires plan�taires, et lui �tre, peut-�tre, mise
en garde ironique ou sorte d�exorcisme! A. V.
(*) Auteur de �l�Arbre-Seul� (Gallimard) .
� Emphases � par Philippe Beck*
Une phrase comme �Tourne et craque la terre dans l�obscur myst�re o� se
d�battent voix et masques, victimes et bourreaux!� est doublement
difficile aujourd�hui. Difficile au ministre des Affaires �trang�res,
et difficile tout court. Rien n�interdit qu�on �crive ce qu�on veut. Si
je critique ici un conservateur qui veut �crire, ce n�est pas dans le
but qu�on le censure. C�est pour voir ce qui explique une emphase
persienne aujourd�hui. On peut d�plorer que le langage s�appauvrisse �
raison de l�augmentation n�gative du monde. On peut souhaiter aussi que
la langue demeure pr�cise, donc soign�e. Or il y a deux emphases. Une
premi�re, l�emphase qui insiste et pr�cise; une seconde, l�emphase qui
voile et gonfle. Les d�bats sur la juste litt�rature moderne opposent
deux sortes d��crivains emphatiques. Aucun n��chappe � l�emphase, m�me
le plus volontairement plat des prosateurs; s�il refuse l�appellation
po�sie, il doit se rappeler qu�il insiste aussi, qu�il se r�p�te, qu�il
aime la r�p�tition. Le livre auquel il faut dire non ici conna�t-il son
emphase? Non. Il donne l�occasion de r�p�ter quelques id�es sur la
sinc�rit�, la personnalit� et l�intensit�.
Ce livre est-il sinc�re? L�un des nombreux po�tes convoqu�s est Yeats.
Dans l�une de ses lettres � son fils po�te, John Butler Yeats �crit:
�L�enfant qui a de nombreux jouets ne peut trouver le bonheur, non plus
que l�Am�ricain, �galement tout occup� � ses jouets [�]. Devoir compter
sur soi-m�me, telle est la doctrine de la sinc�rit�.� L�orgie de
citations dans �Eloge des voleurs de feu� est une orgie d�insinc�rit�s,
car l�osmose avec les paroles des po�tes hypoth�tiquement sinc�res est
une d�pendance ardemment aggrav�e, un lyrisme d�identification.
L�aspiration aux fi�vres du monde, aux br�lures de chanteurs apr�s
Orph�e, au salut par le verbe est-elle due � une personnalit�?
J. B. Yeats parle de �l�impersonnalit� de la vraie personnalit�.
L�homme de caract�re doit avoir beaucoup d�impersonnalit�, comprendre
intens�ment l��tat du monde. L�intensit� n�est pas la qualit� du bel
Int�rieur bourgeois, tapiss� de vell�it�s. La force �nonciative de
l�int�riorit� bless�e ne suffit pas. Il faut quelque chose � dire, qui
r�siste au temps et lui r�ponde. On doit �tre de son temps pour �tre
intense. La tristesse de ne pas r�pondre aux besoins d�une �poque
n�excuse pas qu�on la conserve en faisant mine d�y r�sister. P. B.
(*) Auteur d��Aux recensions� (Flammarion).
Andr� Velter Philippe Beck


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Dnia sobota, 11 grudnia 2004 15:32, Rodolfo Grave napisa=B3:
> Hi.
>
> I need to set up H323 on an Asterisk box. I've succesfuly compiled the
> asterisk oh323 (including of course all the dependencies: PWlib and
> OpenH323), and then compiled asterisk. However, asterisk doesn't report
> a registered H323 channel (when it starts, it reports IAX2, ZAP and SIP
> channels, however, the 323 word doesn't appear in the whole output).
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> Is there anything I'm missing? I've read the documentation on the wiki,
> and none said nothing about editing a config file. I did noticed that
> they talked about the oh323.conf file, which I dont have.



Which OS? :)

How do you did it ??

I'm sitting on this problem second day and nothing. :(.

Slackware Current and Mandrake 10.1 Offcial.

Would you be so nice and explain how you did it?

versions etc. :)

Kind Regards,

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Hello.

I need connect MNF to MNF with ipsec. All it's ok, but not ping.

I permit trafic port 50 and 500 UDP fron wan to lan and lan to wan.

I create VPN zone, but option ipsec0 ethernet adapter is n'ot in MNF2.

In MNF1 Mandrake 8 based VPN is atached to ipsec0 and trafic is permited for 
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<Link from Paul Stenquist>
                                > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?
photo_id=2934874&size=lg


Very nice Paul.
When it loade on my monitor(slowly)at first i thought it was a picture of a 
piece of iron
sculpture when 
the dark top piece started to show..<g>

I like how the light comes through the yellow leaves.

I can see your istD works well.LOL

Dave
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