Jim, Your understated messages, following quotes of those by Declan McCullagh and Tim May, are the best ever, I think. I am dumbfounded by their profundity, subtlety, eloquence, impenetrability, clarity, wit, generosity, amazing gracefulness. How do you do it? The purity of an unmarked canvas. Now it is possible that your DSL is so fast that it outran your intent to say your customary, if so, I withdraw this message. For the pleasure of awed repetition I duplicate the masterpieces in their entirety: ----- Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:17:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Choate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDR: Re: Crypto-Anarchy/Anarcho-Capitalist Errors in Understanding In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Declan McCullagh wrote: > Well, here's what you wrote. You were somewhat incoherent. Do you wish to > retract it? > > I don't know what you mean by "usualy" twist and turn -- I posted only once > in this thread ------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:56:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Choate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CDR: Re: WSJ: Who will issue digital IDs... In-Reply-To: <a04310100b51aa233ddea@[207.111.242.14]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Tim May wrote: > First, we have seen a lot of political junk discussion here lately, > about the tired subjects of socialism, Microsoft, Nazis, and > (presumably) even Heinlein. [ > Second, code is indeed preferable to rhetoric. > However, importantly, it is clear from recent discussions on the list > and from at least one recent physical Cypherpunks meeting, that an > increasing number of participants "just don't get it." > > There was, for example, a proposal by some people at a recent meeting > that Cypherpunks should set up their own "certificate-issuing > authority." > > This is a terrible direction to go in. > > Apparently we are not discussing politics _enough_. > > "Cypherpunks write code" may be a nice mantra, but when Cypherpunks > write code in furtherance of statist and centralized missions, the > results are awful. > > Let Verisign do anything it wants to do. A free country and all. But > monkeywrench any and all attempts to make such "identity credentials" > mandatory. In particular, do nothing to promulgate central > Cypherpunks signature authorities. > > --Tim May > > -- > ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- > Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, > ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero > W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, > "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments. > -----
