We understand how Freedom will protect the rights of Turkish or 
Chinese dissidents, at least until Interpol and interlocking police 
enforcement enter the picture. But what of Canadian dissidents who 
are doing precisely what their Chinese equivalents are doing/

 From their Web site, this excerpt about why Freedom is needed:

"How will Freedom improve free speech online?
Dissidents in many regimes are persecuted for exercising their right 
to free speech. Lin Hai was arrested in China on March 25, 1998, and 
charged with "inciting to overthrow state power" for providing 30,000 
Chinese email addresses to a human rights group. Emre Ersoz, a 
teenager, was sentenced by a Turkish court to 10 months suspended 
jail time for making comments about the police while participating in 
a daily on-line forum. Using Freedom, people like Lin Hai and Emre 
Ersoz can voice their concerns and beliefs without fear of 
retribution.

Similarly, journalists and human rights workers can use Freedom to 
protect their communications in countries where freedom of speech and 
freedom of the press are not recognized. "

OK, so let's consider some hypotheticals (hypos):

1. A dissident in Canada is using Freedom to coordinate an overthrow 
of state power. Does ZKS honor their above point, or do they pull the 
plug?

2. A journalist in Canada, or posting into Canada, is using the 
Freedom system during the highly-publicized Homolka-Teale case of 
some years back. Does ZKS claim that "journalists and human rights 
workers can use Freedom to protect their communications in countries 
where freedom of speech and freedom of the press are not recognized."?

3. A U.S. judge issues a gag order in a court case. Someone is using 
Freedom to post material covered by the gag order. In fact, many 
suspect the Freedom user is one of the trial attorneys. Does ZKS 
stand by its point about someone "making comments about the police 
while participating in a daily on-line forum."/

The point being the activities in both sets of cases, the ZKS 
examples and my examples, are illegal in their respective countries.

I certainly hope ZKS does not claim that Lin Hai gets to incite the 
overthrow of the Chinese government using Freedom but that Joe Nym 
does not get to incite the overthrow of the Canadian government.

And I surely hope that ZKS is not claiming that Freedom protects Emre 
Ersoz in Turkey but does not protect Joe Baptista in Canada during 
the Homolka-Teale case.

And, as I emphasized in my last message, the laws of which country or 
countries? Canadian law, because ZKS is Canadian, or Barbadan law, 
because Barbados is the country of the user contract? Or U.S. law, 
because Canada usually capitulates to U.S. law  on sensitive issues?

And what if the Freedom node from whence the offending material 
originates is in Turkey? Not illegal in Turkey, maybe illegal in 
Canada...

The parallels are obvious.

The weakness of ZKS is its fastidiousness about "applicable laws" 
when we're talking about the Internet!


-Tim May

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