At 1:24 AM -0500 7/11/00, Ben Byer wrote:
>  > It isn't "spam." It's a matter of one or more lists being subscribed
>>  to one or more other lists.
>>
>>  Suppose someone signs up the Foobar List to one of the Cypherpunks
>>  lists. (Hint: this has happened.)
>>
>>
>>  Are the CDR operators responsible for this "spamming" of other lists?
>>  In Marshall's logic, are they guilty of "Federal Crimes"?
>>
>>  Get real.
>
>
>It's spam, in that it's unwanted, bulk email.  No, I'm not stupid -- I
>understand WHY it came.  Still-- sparklist.com *makes money* off those
>mailing lists, and should therefore put some effort into maintaining them. 
>One listserv was able to detect the fraudulent subscriptions -- why not them? 
>
>Yes, CDR operators would be responsible if they knew about the abuse and did
>nothing about it.  (Not on a felony level, though...)

Bullshit. The list operators are not responsible for who is 
subscribed to the list.

And even if some congresscritters try to _make_ laws to make them 
responsible, folks interested in freedom should not support such 
attempts.



>
>I'm pissed because I alerted them of this at around 1:00 PM.  They promised
>they'd block everything immediately and fire off a notice/apology to the list
>-- they lied.

I don't like reading your crap. It is "unwanted mass mail."

I am contacting your ISP to have your account cancelled for abuse.


--Tim May
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