On Sun, Aug 06, 2000 at 09:14:02AM -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Bryan Nolen wrote: > > >> Shall we only allow messages from subscribed members? Moderate? Shut the > >> lists down? Just deal? > > > >Definatly close the list to ONLY subscribers... > > > > Bad plan. This is political speech here; people need to be > able to speak anonymously. Add the known sources of anonymous mail (remailers etc) to the posters list. When a post is rejected because the sender isn't on the posters list, the list operator gets a copy. He can then, if it's an anonymous post from a new anonymous post source, post it to the list (and add the new address to the posters list). It's not hard to get majordomo to have seperate subscribrs and posters lists. No coding required. > "Just Deal" though, is actually pretty easy with procmail. > I find that a good .procmailrc keeps the S/N ratio acceptably high. > Start by tossing everything from egroups and aol, and everything that > mentions "du jour" or "gagler" in the header. After that, just > look for key phrases in the subject line, (such as "welcome to", > "unable to process", "loans", "work at home", "business opportunity", > "retire in", "retirement", etc.) and you can get the S/N back up > to at least 70%. > > If you're an advanced procmail scripter, you can write the script > to be a little more suspicious of stuff sent to the "toad.com" > node than to the other nodes: I've been noticing that a good > three-quarters of the spam is coming through toad. > > It has been frightening of late though, how much incoming traffic > has been getting autofiled in my "spam" folder from cpunks; I think > if all that crap were going in my "cypherpunks" folder, S/N would > be under 10% at this point. > > However, even with my filters on it, I've been noticing that the > amount of actual "content" has been dropping off. It looks like > folks are unwilling to wade through the spam and keep the discussions > going, which is sad. I have the same sort of procmail filters. Few people are willing to do this though, and fewer have the knowledge to do it. The rest have to wade through the spam. -- Eric Murray http://www.lne.com/ericm ericm at lne.com PGP keyid:E03F65E5 Security consulting: secure protocols, security reviews, standards, smartcards.
