Kerry L. Bonin writes:
>At 03:42 AM 8/14/00 -0400, Tim May wrote:
>You seem to enjoy extrapolating my position far beyond where I state, then
>attacking the extended position as being overly broad. I find that
>amusing.
Apparently you also find it embarrassing enough to continue responding.
>I take no such position on this subject...
>Again, my position is reserved for "kiddie" ...
>pornographic, therefore my position does not apply.
>My position does not apply to the possessor of the images, for such reasons
>no one, and as such do not apply.
>And again....
>Here I happen to agree with you _completely_, however you have conveniently
>forgotten that my view is highly nuanced.
Your view may well be this nuanced. However, Tim began this thread
in reply to your very unnuanced Joe Sixpack comment that "I have kids,
and my personal opinion on kiddie porn is minimum penalty of forced
castration for creators of the images, if not death penalty." It is
certainly understandable why such a simple-minded view might be
attacked.
Notwithstanding that, I'd like to join in Tim's examination of your
"nuanced position":
>Fine, for the sake of argument, lets draw the line at 11, and call it porn
>if the child is engaged in an actual or simulated sex act. This is
>obviously a flawed definition, but good definitions in this area remain
>elusive, and I'm not devoting a significant amount of work here to
>clarifications. That definition is limiting enough for the debate.
So, let us posit there are two youngsters, ages 10 or so playing
doctor and "touching" each other. Let's also posit that there is
an older child, say 13 or so, spying on the two and perhaps taking
pictures with which to embarrass them. It seems that a reasonable
view of your "nuanced position" as you've outlined it here is that
you would support "forcible castration...if not death penalty" for
the 13 year old.
No doubt there's some other nuance you forgot to mention though.
- GH
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