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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:07:00 -0500
From: Jim Thompson <[email protected]>
To: pfSense support and discussion <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [pfSense] [liberationtech] NSA Laughs at PCs, Prefers Hacking 
Routers and Switches
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Read ‘em and weep:  
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/us/nsa-foils-much-internet-encryption.html?_r=0

My take is that most places don’t enable PFS (because it’s “hard”) in IPSec.

In theory, Transport Layer Security (TLS) can choose appropriate ciphers since 
SSLv3, but in everyday practice many implementations have refused to offer PFS 
or only provide it with very low encryption grade. 
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tls/current/msg02134.html

I don’t know the situation on pfSense (I’ve not gone to look, as I’m elbows 
deep in an IPv6 IPsec issue atm.)

In theory, OpenSSL supports perfect forward secrecy using elliptic curve 
Diffie–Hellman since version 1.0.   Do we set "enable-ec_nistp_64_gcc_128” on 
pfSense?
Do we enable the DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA cipher suite?   How about 
ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA?  Do we build the 64-bit optimized version for 64-bit 
images?
http://vincent.bernat.im/en/blog/2011-ssl-perfect-forward-secrecy.html

Anyway, the ‘evidence’ is that there is some fundamental weakness in DH,  since 
the NSA itself recommends EC crypto rather than DH in their “Suite B” offering.

http://www.nsa.gov/ia/programs/suiteb_cryptography/

One would think that pfSense would follow suit.


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