Thank you for posting this, Eugen. I would have missed this exchange. >> "Fuck You" is nice. Service and a court date is a lot nicer.
My sentiments, exactly. Fuck these guys, indeed. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013, at 12:56 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: > > https://plus.google.com/+MikeHearn/posts/LW1DXJ2BK8k > > Mike Hearn Shared publicly - Yesterday 10:30 AM #NSA > > > The packet capture shown in these new NSA slides shows internal database > replication traffic for the anti-hacking system I worked on for over two > years. Specifically, it shows a database recording a user login as part > of > this system: > > http://googleblog.blogspot.ch/2013/02/an-update-on-our-war-against-account.html > > Recently +Brandon Downey , a colleague of mine on the Google security > team, > said (after the usual disclaimers about being personal opinions and not > speaking for the firm which I repeat here) - "fuck these guys": > > https://plus.google.com/108799184931623330498/posts/SfYy8xbDWGG > > I now join him in issuing a giant Fuck You to the people who made these > slides. I am not American, I am a Brit, but it's no different - GCHQ > turns > out to be even worse than the NSA. > > We designed this system to keep criminals out . There's no ambiguity > here. > The warrant system with skeptical judges, paths for appeal, and rules of > evidence was built from centuries of hard won experience. When it works, > it > represents as good a balance as we've got between the need to restrain > the > state and the need to keep crime in check. Bypassing that system is > illegal > for a good reason . > > Unfortunately we live in a world where all too often, laws are for the > little > people. Nobody at GCHQ or the NSA will ever stand before a judge and > answer > for this industrial-scale subversion of the judicial process. In the > absence > of working law enforcement, we therefore do what internet engineers have > always done - build more secure software. The traffic shown in the slides > below is now all encrypted and the work the NSA/GCHQ staff did on > understanding it, ruined. > > Thank you Edward Snowden. For me personally, this is the most interesting > revelation all summer. > > How we know the NSA had access to internal Google and Yahoo cloud data > http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/11/04/how-we-know-the-nsa-had-access-to-internal-google-and-yahoo-cloud-data/ [snip]
