On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 8:36 AM, John Young <[email protected]> wrote: > ... > At a HOPE panel on informants, several hackers disclosed > those pressures to rat, some succumbed and were let off, > Emmanuel Goldstein admitted it, some refused and were > jailed, Bernie-X, Kevin Mitnick. All agreed it is far worse to > go through than you think. Goldstein estimated 25% of hackers > are rats.
Jim Bell's exhortations to deny all pleas a hard sell considering that one in four rolls over completely under pressure. :/ > Barrett Brown is on the hot seat right now, being offering deals > to rat, as customary, with three (!) trials postponed to maintain > pressure. Shit, even his mom was used as a fed provocation to > misbehave then as a persuasion club as were Sabu's nephew > and niece. it would be interesting to see a survey of the carrots and sticks used by federal prosecutors. > Anybody with a high profile is targeted, so beware publicity > hounds crowing of derrying-do and urgings by high profilers > who may or may not be in the grips of the feds, and if not, > will soon be due to their publicity narcosis, and then used > as clubs or head to jail for obstruction and recidivism or > some other nut-squeezing -- even in jail they are offered > deals to rat and sentence reduced. good thing JYA stays under the radar! > In or out jail the pressure to rat continues, as with Adrian > Lamo. Ex-cons never know if an overture is an LE sting or a > an honest request for advice, so they rat to be safe -- recall > they are obliged -- forever -- to report overtures, just like > ex-spies remain under the gun to rat for life. If you haven't > been there don't imagine you know what it's like. what do you mean by "obliged -- forever -- to report overtures"? i would be very interested to know if there are clauses compelling disclosure in these agreements for unrelated activities. is this "soft" pressure, or legally binding? > Don't imagine this list and others like it, chats, OTRs, TOR, > are not being spied for easy targets. this opportunistic spying even has a code name: EPICFAIL
