decentralization is (imho) a very poor characterization - what is wanted is target diffusion. in California-speak, “It’s all about me!”
I could care less if my access to AT&T, Twitter, etc. are broken, I DON’T use them - I do have some folks hanging off AT&T that I do care about so access to them is important. To borrow from the subject line - there are -millions- of Captains /bill Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet. On 14January2014Tuesday, at 11:48, rysiek <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi there, > > Dnia wtorek, 14 stycznia 2014 11:28:08 Odinn Cyberguerrilla pisze: >> (...) >> But how often do you hear people talking about what is needed to literally >> Decentralize Everything? >> >> Well, except for posts occasionally on lists like these, or meetings / >> discussions with like-minded people, or hackerspaces, or development >> discussions, the answer is Almost Never. > > Yes, because people do not understand why it is important. And it is not > limited to the (let's call it) "digital domain", look what's happening in > retail. Just try *not* buying Unilever, for example... > >> Anyway, this recent ruling announcement re. net neutrality (or its death) >> here in the USA is just one more example of how we cannot rely upon laws, >> at least in my view. But it also made me think some more about this and >> realize that if we want decentralized protocols / solutions to spread at >> all, we have to do a way better job at being good advocates for them and >> talking about them incessantly to everyone in a way that is easy, simple, >> and makes sense to people. > > We need more than that. We need to understand -- yes, us, the tech community > -- that for people to use decentralised services, these services must, > absolutely must!, be compatible and interoperable. > > Case in point: you can talk till you're blue in the mouth about federated > social web, but even once you get a person convinced to ditch Facebook for > it, > you get The Question -- "So, which one should I use? Diaspora? Friendica? > StatusNet? Pump.io?" > > The proper answer, the answer we *have to* be able to give, is: > "use any of these, they talk to each other". > > This is, sadly, not the case. The Not Invented Here syndrome is killing us. > Look at what moving identi.ca from StatusNet to pump.io did to the federated > microblogging community... > >> As this post already exhibits I can be very wordy and windbaggish. >> Further evidence of that fact is presented amply in my recent post here: >> https://odinn.cyberguerrilla.org/index.php/2014/01/02/opensourcebuildguide/ >> >> As I reflect on this I think about the following. >> >> 1) I need to make something shorter that easily introduces people to open >> source stuff. Something that's even simpler than prism-break >> (http://prism-break.org/) - an option which is so simple that anyone (at >> least in primary school levels) can understand it and act on things >> presented in it within less than a minute. Look. Software. Click (one >> click, two max!) to get it. Done. >> >> 2) What are some ways to Decentralize Everything? To the DNS and beyond? >> Stuff that comes to mind (remember, there is no one thing, there are no >> captains, there is no one solution, these are just examples of possible >> partial solutions being thrown out here): >> 2)a. https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/ >> 2)b. https://github.com/namecoin >> 2)c. https://nameid.org/ >> 2)d. concepts like this >> http://torrentfreak.com/how-the-pirate-bay-plans-to-beat-censorship-for-good >> -140105/ 2)e. Convergence for namecoin >> https://github.com/JeremyRand/Convergence/tree/namecoin >> 2)f. Convergence (a different one) https://github.com/moxie0/Convergence >> 2)g. Tack.io - for pinning (it's my understading that moxie0 prefers >> this direction, but I haven't been tracking it closely enough to say >> what is going on with it right now) --> http://tack.io/ >> 2)g.1. See also the Tack internet draft(!) at http://tack.io/draft.html >> 2)g.2. See also reference TACK implementations https://github.com/tack >> >> So... >> >> As I read through this, and similar stuff, I think to myself, something >> about this needs to be broadcast in a way that it is so easy to do, so >> simple to accept, that it meets the "everybody sees it (or it's in the >> news) and they click and download it" >> >> I know it's never really that simple. But I am throwing this out there >> because even more censorship is coming. And there are no captains, and we >> do need to decentralize everything. We must get A Lot more people on board >> with decentralization, open source, and as close to p2p as possible, we >> need to make it so easy to defeat censorship of anything that those who >> propose allowing it to happen will just throw up their hands in >> frustration. So the question (one of many!) is how to present this in a >> way that makes sense to a lot of people. >> >> A lot more than currently. >> >> OK I am done for now. >> >> your thoughts please > > Consider one idea for getting people to use decentralised social networks > instead of failbook: > http://rys.io/en/88 > > -- > Pozdr > rysiek
