On 20 Jan 2014, at 13:09 , grarpamp <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Philip Shaw <[email protected]> wrote:
>> reading documents into the public record would be useful (since it would 
>> give us all legitimate access), it wouldn’t help subsequent publishers.
> 
> It's public record at that point... when acting under that context, anyone can
> read and publish it. Be it the Press/WL or Jane Public. Or perhaps even
> congressperson, NSA, military, executive branch, etc... so long as they
> were say officially off work as anyone might be in the evening at the library
> or on vacation visiting their capitol... though you probably wouldn't want to
> actually try it (ref also: the military blocking WL website from soldiers), 
> just
> let the Press do it. You just can't be cleared/NDA'd and do the initial leak,
> unless you change policy by fiat (exec order), or are Rep/Sen and speak
> in congress.

I must have misunderstood the reports of the part involving Beacon Press, since 
 the documents published there were the same ones as he had placed in the 
records of the committee. On reflection, ISTM that the mistake Gravel and 
Beacon made was that Gravel had obtained it as classified material, and so 
couldn’t publish it until it was declassified, even though anyone else could 
have obtained identical documents as an open matter of public record. (A 
similar quirk affects people who read the Snowdon documents in that the 
handling rules still apply even though the documents have been published 
openly, which also makes the mistake of confirming the authenticity of at least 
some of the documents.) 

For any lawyers out there - do state legislatures have an equivalent of 
parliamentary privilege, and if so does it protect state legislators from 
federal law? I know in Australia they do, but there parliamentary privilege 
mostly relates to defamation law rather than official secrets (and that’s a 
matter of state law).

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