On Feb 16, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Lucky Green <[email protected]> wrote:

> I say, let them and all of Bitcoin burn to dust.

Dang kids. Get offa my lawn.


It’s been interesting, I’ll say that much. I have people on their honeymoon 
here in .ai asking to see me, buy me and Mrs. RAH $30 hamburgers at Viceroy, 
etc.

Or “prove”, “stylometrically", on various Bitcoin fora, that I'm Satoshi. Heh. 
I’ll never get tired of braggin’ about *that* one. :-) I expect others here 
know where the stylistic clues came from, but I think Grigg has the right 
approach to that question. Leave well enough alone.


Being, even now, generally optimistic about the future, if not my own in 
particular, I can’t help thinking there’s a pony in there somewhere. I *do* 
find it annoying that the only time people wanna talk to me about this stuff is 
at the top of a bubble. I expect that it may be a hint from the Almighty I 
should pay attention to. 


At the moment, PayPal, which we all looked down the nose at back then, is 
still, um, printing money, and a cypherpunk gave me some BTC a little while 
ago, a kind of eating-the-dog food exercise for old time’s sake. Or something. 
The price has since fallen 40%, but it’s bouncing back, and will probably be 
fine. “You have to be *this* tall to take this ride”, as another friend said 
about Bitcoin prices last week. Meanwhile I can’t think of anything I want to 
spend it on anyway.

Even in its current form, Bitcoin makes rather short work of those speed bumps 
Mr. May used to tell us about, which *may* be the real point to the exercise.

Having to file several kinds of forms to get paid for a small consulting job as 
US citizen outside the US was enough to make me foreswear getting paid for much 
of anything anymore, anything small at least, and BTC solves several problems 
there quite handily, push ever came to shove. Besides, my passport is stamped 
“Employment Prohibited”, which, apparently, I’m evidently honoring even in the 
breach.


So, I think BTC, or something like it, would make a nice numeraire, temporary 
or otherwise, having gnawed at the edges of *that* problem when most of the 
Bitcoinners were, as Marc notes, in short-pants. Yes, even in its current 
volatile state. And contrary to the opinions of people who know better than I 
do about these things.


It wasn't quite what Dr. Fama got the Nobel for, but New Monetary Economics 
might be as good once as it ever was, and Bitcoin might be the camel’s nose 
under that particular tent, and given that it is the ultimate fiat currency 
that’s quite an assertion.

As someone whose stated goal, back in the day, was to securitize *everything*, 
debt, equity, cash, services, title to assets in storage, transit, or just 
sitting there with a house on it, cats, dogs, mass hysteria -- and all 
derivatives thereof -- using bearer-transaction financial cryptography 
protocols on a ubiquitous geodesic public internetwork, Bitcoin *is* a bit, oh, 
please let me say it, self-referent as a solution. I saw it blow by here on 
this list, said, “meh”, shortly had the magic smoke go out of most of my 
internet presence by a power-spike in a hurricane, and never got around to 
paying attention to either Bitcoin, or the internet, very much at all until 
various people frog-marched my attention back into focus recently with me 
muttering variously about being too old for this shit anymore...


So, Bitcoin, if it survives, makes a *nice* hack, by solving, what Barnes, and 
ultimately everyone else, called the “loading problem”. And, so far at least, 
it solves the “and then you go to jail” part of the book-entry transaction 
error-handler, something Barnes was also noted for saying. That, too, only if 
Bitcoin survives. 

"...any [network] architecture that can survive a nuclear attack can survive 
withdrawal of government subsidy...” Godwin said on Cyberia, long ago. I’ve 
jokingly called it his Second Law. I suppose the Strong Form of that 
hypothesis, speaking of Dr. Fama, is surviving not mere withdrawal of the 
implicit subsidy of monopolistic contract enforcement, and all transfer-priced 
assets and “externalities” appertaining thereto, but also active attack from 
the ostensible contract enforcer itself.


I hear of others, well, gnawing around the edges, actually, of securitizing 
other stuff with variants of the Bitcoin protocol, but, like predicting the end 
of the world, expanding the blockchain to other assets "has not been found 
agreeable to experience.” So far as I can see.

Meanwhile, Chris Odom, aka, “Fellow Traveller”, aka, “Lovedrop” (yes, *that* 
“Lovedrop”), is banging away on something called Open Transactions, which 
inserts an actual transaction protocol, among other much more interesting 
things, into the works to glue Bitcoin and other stuff onto, for starters, 
Wagner Blinding, using, for starters, Ben Laurie’s lucre code. I haven’t seen a 
code-stoke like the one I see Chris with, well, since the old days. Which is 
nice. Very nice. Big grins all around, down here in the elbow of the Caribbean. 
Apparently, like me, he noticed that he was delivering instantly-usable product 
now, and getting paid later, too much later usually. I discovered cypherpunks 
in late spring of 1994 looking for a solution to something Barnes (again) 
called the “latency” problem. Chriss bumped into the gold-silver-crypto list, I 
think, about 10 years later.

Mr. Odom has been been kind enough to involve me in testing OT a bit, and, 
ultimately, I’ve more-or-less bailed on iterative break-it-and-fix-it. Mostly 
because I don’t have the patience for testing — much less writing — code, if I 
ever really did. 

But here’s the rub, I also I have no *idea* what I, personally, would do with 
Open Transactions these days even if I could get it running in production.

I have lots of ideas in *general*, you understand, but they’re mostly of the 
“let’s you and him fight” variety. 

Many more people than *I* would have to be involved, they, and I, would risk 
much more than money, and, ultimately, I’m not sure any of it would work. It’s 
a drag to think that most of what I’m interested in doing requires the 
dissolution, or at least dissipation, of The World’s Only Remaining Superpower 
to happen. As someone who still, barely, calls himself mostly an 
anarcho-capitalist but still a patriot, that’s about the only thing worse than 
only being interesting to other people during the top of a bubble. Yup. A Mass 
of Contradictions, as usual.


"Let’s you and him fight" is only two or three steps removed from Mr. Briceno’s 
original observation, I figure.

Hell, even “set here next to the rockin' chair, sonny, and I’ll tell ya a 
story”, is, ultimately, not much more help than “get off my lawn”, when you get 
right down to it...

Cheers,
RAH



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