UK law, not US, so no “1st amendment” protections. The affirmative defense is 
interesting if incredibly vague.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/11/section/58


58      Collection of information.
(1)A person commits an offence if—
(a)he collects or makes a record of information of a kind likely to be useful 
to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism, or
(b)he possesses a document or record containing information of that kind.
(2)In this section “record” includes a photographic or electronic record.
(3)It is a defence for a person charged with an offence under this section to 
prove that he had a reasonable excuse for his action or possession.
(4)A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable—
(a)on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 
years, to a fine or to both, or
(b)on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months, 
to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum or to both.

--
Lance Cottrell
[email protected]



On May 21, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Henry Rivera <[email protected]> wrote:

> All "speech" should be legal--printed, electronic, or otherwise--even guides 
> to making bombs like the Anarchist Cookbook, of which I have a copy. Anyone 
> who doesn't support that doesn't deserve freedom of speech. I understand 
> limits to speech being necessary to prevent imminent harm (when there is 
> evidence of clear and present danger) like yelling fire in a crowded theater. 
> However, this logic has been overextended and abused to the point where 
> less-than-clear danger and just potential risk are enough to justify 
> censorship of unpopular political speech. One more reason to nix the 
> Terrorism Act. 
> -Henry
> 
> On May 21, 2014, at 12:05 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
>>> Message du 21/05/14 16:24
>>> De : "Georgi Guninski" 
>>> AFAICT someone might go to jail for owning
>>> a book (not sure if paper or electronic):
>>> 
>>> From wikipedia (old revision):
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abu_Hamza_al-Masri&oldid=609513570
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Guilty of one charge of "possessing a document containing information 
>>> likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of 
>>> terrorism"[31] under the Terrorism Act 2000, s58. This charge under the 
>>> Terrorism Act of 2000 related to his possession of an Encyclopedia of 
>>> Afghan Jihad, an Al Qaeda Handbook and other propaganda materials produced 
>>> by Abu Hamza.[32]
>>> ---
>> 
>> Would you be in favor of charging someone for possessing things like:
>> - A catalog of hacking tools;
>> - Pedophile instruction manual;
>> - Recipes for preparing human flesh;
>> 
>> ???
>> 
>> Things like that remember me that google once did not have the capacity to 
>> exclude links from its systems, but because of pedophiles, they finally 
>> built that capacity. The next day the copyright industry was knocking at 
>> their door to take down content they previously couldn't because of the lack 
>> of technical capacity.
>> 
>> "Now Google don't have excuses." - I remember seeing that phrase in a New 
>> York magazine.
>> 
>> The only way to not have people charged because of a book would be to make 
>> legal all books no matter what and you guessed it right, it won't happen.
>> 
>> Because you, yourself, will be in favor of indicting people in at least one 
>> of the items I quoted, which automatically makes it legal to charge anyone 
>> because of possession of any book.
> 

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