Ok : first the conclusion. The % of braindead tor zealots in
        this list is higher than in tortalk.  Yes, that makes it clear
        what kind of joke this ´cypherpunk´ mailing list is.

        Except mostly for posts from John Young, the content, and
        politics here are  worse than what youd expect from joe sixpack.


        ¨rysek¨ ¨Oh, come on. I'm sure Juan has created a much better
        and much more independent project than Tor,¨

        What I´ve done or have not done has nothing to do with the facts
        I mentioned and the soundness of my  analysis.

        And yes. I, personally, am much more  independent
        than people on the payroll of the US government, go figure. 
        

        Sampo ¨Yes, well, fuck you. I read much of code, I run an exit
        node, and  just fuck you and your germ line.¨

        ¨fuck your germ line¨ 

        Dear Sampo, it is too bad that your message has been written by
        a worthless shitbag (you) who cannot compose even basic
        english sentences.

        If you ever manage to reach some sort beginner´s level of
        english, so that you can communicate...anything 
        meaningful - let me know. 


        Lodevijk¨ And if you don't think it's reasonable, doesn't that
        just make more sense? It's the USA!¨

        Right, the more absurd, the more sense it makes. 

        
        
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