Dnia niedziela, 13 lipca 2014 23:18:29 grarpamp pisze: > On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 5:35 PM, rysiek <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dnia sobota, 12 lipca 2014 18:15:53 [email protected] pisze: > >> The Pirate Party and Cypherpunks party are populous movements > > > > I couldn't agree more, and the sad state of Pirate Party here in Poland: > > Same shit is going on in Germany and Sweden, AFAIK. Pirate Party movement > > is in deep crisis in Europe. > > Forgetting the actual failures in execution, you're simply not going > to gain much public acceptance (votes) among the masses, or earn > influence by them, by calling yourselves the 'pirate' or 'punks' party. > Well, except by luck and whim. At least call yourselves something > relatively benign on the books so that you can then choose to carry > whatever banner suits each audience.
I disagree. The Pirate Party got a lot of media attention thanks to the name, and got a strong support in the beginning. The current crisis is not due to the name, but due to the fact the PP abandoned quite a lot of their original core issues (filesharing, data protection, privacy, etc). > Disruption, when you have insufficient force outright, implies subterfuge > and sleight of hand. Get deeper. But the PP created a hell of a disruption. Some big parties today have integrated some elements of the original PP platform into their programmes, which is a success regardless of what happens with PP now. However, I'm a big supporter of the idea of creating a single, strong Commons Party, assimilating the Greens and the Pirate Parties across Europe (and further) into a single force. When one thinks about it, it makes sense. On some level the Greens and PP have similar core values: protecting the commons -- be it environmental, or digital. They cooperate closely on several issues in the EU already, and yet go to elections separately. -- Pozdr rysiek
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