Loosely related to Mike Ingle's mention of Twister and Bitmessage - made me think of Secure Scuttlebutt https://github.com/ssbc/phoenix based on gossip protocol.
Sent from my iPhone > On 6 Apr 2015, at 7:02 am, [email protected] wrote: > > Send cypherpunks mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo/cypherpunks > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of cypherpunks digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Dollar Value of a Datamined "Free" Service User? (rysiek) > 2. Re: Dollar Value of a Datamined "Free" Service User? (grarpamp) > 3. Re: Dollar Value of a Datamined "Free" Service User? (grarpamp) > 4. Re: Dollar Value of a Datamined "Free" Service User? (rysiek) > 5. Re: Warrant Canaries (grarpamp) > 6. Forward secrecy implemented, was Re: How to have your > encrypted mail in two places at once (Mike Ingle) > 7. Re: Greenwald, Scahill step down from The Intercept (Mirimir) > 8. Re: Greenwald, Scahill step down from The Intercept (Juan) > 9. Re: Greenwald, Scahill step down from The Intercept (Cari Machet) > 10. Fwd: The West's Shame (Александр) > 11. Re: The West's Shame (Zenaan Harkness) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 18:14:31 +0200 > From: rysiek <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Subject: Re: Dollar Value of a Datamined "Free" Service User? > Message-ID: <2015159.YdJg2uZ1UC@lapuntu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Dnia wtorek, 24 lutego 2015 23:51:52 grarpamp pisze: >> (...) >> Anyone have links to studies made within the last five years that >> have attempted to calculate the dollar value of datamined users? > > Have a look around here: > http://www.inrialpes.fr/planete/people/lukasz/ > > -- > Pozdrawiam, > Michał "rysiek" Woźniak > > Zmieniam klucz GPG :: http://rys.io/pl/147 > GPG Key Transition :: http://rys.io/en/147 > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 931 bytes > Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. > URL: > <http://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/attachments/20150405/5b5e589a/attachment-0001.sig> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 13:47:49 -0400 > From: grarpamp <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Dollar Value of a Datamined "Free" Service User? > Message-ID: > <cad2ti2-d7hexvekkhmjtylnktss49-_smqjcu1hijcvhgub...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:14 PM, rysiek <[email protected]> wrote: >> Dnia wtorek, 24 lutego 2015 23:51:52 grarpamp pisze: >>> Anyone have links to studies made within the last five years that >>> have attempted to calculate the dollar value of datamined users? >> >> Have a look around here: >> http://www.inrialpes.fr/planete/people/lukasz/ > > http://www.pcworld.com/article/2901028/radioshack-puts-customers-personal-data-up-for-sale-in-bankruptcy-auction.html > > Privacy policies are obviously a scam. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 13:52:42 -0400 > From: grarpamp <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Dollar Value of a Datamined "Free" Service User? > Message-ID: > <cad2ti28uef5qrwf_bujrtgmj0f42unktdckz7mm9pbnjqyk...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 1:47 PM, grarpamp <[email protected]> wrote: >> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2901028/radioshack-puts-customers-personal-data-up-for-sale-in-bankruptcy-auction.html >> >> Privacy policies are obviously a scam. > > http://www.radioshack.com/terms-and-conditions/terms.html > http://www.radioshack.com/privacy-policy/privacy.html > > Information sharing and disclosure > Agents, employees and contractors of RadioShack who have access to > personally identifiable information are required to protect this > information in a manner that is consistent with this Privacy Policy > and the high standards of the corporation. > > Information about you specifically will not be used for any purpose > other than to carry out the services you requested from RadioShack and > its affiliates. All of our affiliates have agreed to maintain the > security and confidentiality of the information we provide to them. > We will not sell or rent your personally identifiable information to > anyone at any time. > We will not use any personal information beyond what is necessary to > assist us in delivering to you the services you have requested. > We may send personally identifiable information about you to other > organizations when: > > We have your consent to share the information (you will be provided > the opportunity to opt-out if you desire). For example, if you opt-in > for emails we will share this information with our marketing provider. > We need to share your information in order to provide the product or > service you have requested. For example, we need to share information > with credit card providers and shippers to bill and ship the product > you requested. > We are required to do so by law, for example, in response to a court > order or subpoena. > > > whatever > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 20:17:22 +0200 > From: rysiek <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Dollar Value of a Datamined "Free" Service User? > Message-ID: <3453437.ETRkulUeq1@lapuntu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Dnia niedziela, 5 kwietnia 2015 13:47:49 grarpamp pisze: >>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:14 PM, rysiek <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Dnia wtorek, 24 lutego 2015 23:51:52 grarpamp pisze: >>>> Anyone have links to studies made within the last five years that >>>> have attempted to calculate the dollar value of datamined users? >>> >>> Have a look around here: >>> http://www.inrialpes.fr/planete/people/lukasz/ >> >> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2901028/radioshack-puts-customers-personal-da >> ta-up-for-sale-in-bankruptcy-auction.html >> >> Privacy policies are obviously a scam. > > No shit: > http://rys.io/en/143 > > ;) > > -- > Pozdrawiam, > Michał "rysiek" Woźniak > > Zmieniam klucz GPG :: http://rys.io/pl/147 > GPG Key Transition :: http://rys.io/en/147 > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 931 bytes > Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. > URL: > <http://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/attachments/20150405/1e8f0ab8/attachment-0001.sig> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 14:49:32 -0400 > From: grarpamp <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Warrant Canaries > Message-ID: > <CAD2Ti29NSuRUJ5dk9UmKArrWQk=-ryeoj2unb7xvrqutqoa...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Softy <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> But that is the point of why there is no safety in "everyone flouting the >> law". Everyone is breaking the law and the persecutors get's to cherry pick >> who they will target. Most likely a pleasant mix of high profile (with >> trivial/non-existent penalty) and peon targets (with disproportionate >> penalty). >> >> Consider various Jay Walking, Loitering, Trespassing laws which exist in >> every town. Do all people always use the crosswalk? Do the persecutors >> ever ticket people? Not if the Mayor or Business Man Alpha are jay walking, >> but if I shout to a persecutor driving their armoured patrol car "get off >> the cell phone" ... you can bet your sweet un-free, psuedo-liberty ass I >> would be. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1CRIALZ_hI > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 13:08:34 -0700 > From: Mike Ingle <[email protected]> > To: rysiek <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Subject: Forward secrecy implemented, was Re: How to have your > encrypted mail in two places at once > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Forward secrecy is now working in Confidant Mail 0.28, and a new version > with UI improvements will be posted in the next few days. You can rotate > your encryption subkey and get rid of the old ones. Your key will not > continuously grow in size. If you have a key on two machines, you do > have to manually transfer it after a key rotation. > > Mike > >> On 4/5/2015 8:16 AM, rysiek wrote: >> Dnia piątek, 13 marca 2015 11:24:30 piszesz: >> >>>> On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 11:30:39AM +0100, rysiek wrote: >>>> >>>> Dnia wtorek, 3 marca 2015 01:54:26 Mike Ingle pisze: >>>> >>>>> IMAP and webmail makes it easy to access your mail on two or more >>>>> machines, and have all your folders stay in sync. Encryption tends to >>>>> break that: your inbox might work across machines, but your Sent Items >>>>> and personal folders tend to be stuck on one machine. >>>>> >>>>> Confidant Mail 0.24 has a solution for that problem. You can have the >>>>> same GPG key on two or more machines. Using a secure replication >>>>> protocol, your sent items, read status of incoming mail, personal >>>>> folders, and deletions are all automatically copied to the other >>>>> machines. This provides an IMAP-like experience with encrypted mail. >>>> Why not use different subkeys per-machine? Just remember to encrypt with >>>> all subkeys. Also, GPG-enabled webmail, am I reading it correctly?.. >>> I keep waiting for something interesting to happen that uses blockchains >>> and their private keys for storing, encrypting, distributing, and monetizing >>> messages. >> >> http://twister.net.co/ >> https://bitmessage.org/wiki/Main_Page > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 15:46:56 -0600 > From: Mirimir <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Greenwald, Scahill step down from The Intercept > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >> On 04/04/2015 11:29 PM, Seth wrote: >> It's about damn time ;) >> >> http://chronicle.su/2015/03/07/greenwald-scahill-step-down-from-the-intercept/ > > <SNIP> > > | Glenn Greenwald > | March 9, 2015 at 9:49 pm · Reply > | > | ***pokes you with digital pitchfork*** > > ... and ... > > | Britain Used Spy Team to Shape Latin American > | Public Opinion on Falklands > | By Andrew Fishman and Glenn Greenwald > | @AndrewDFish @ggreenwald 04/02/2015 10:51 AM > > https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/04/02/gchq-argentina-falklands/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 20:58:19 -0300 > From: Juan <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Greenwald, Scahill step down from The Intercept > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 22:29:06 -0700 > Seth <[email protected]> wrote: > >> It's about damn time ;) >> >> http://chronicle.su/2015/03/07/greenwald-scahill-step-down-from-the-intercept/ > > > is this some kind of stupid 'joke' ? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 03:35:10 +0200 > From: Cari Machet <[email protected]> > To: Juan <[email protected]> > Cc: cpunks <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Greenwald, Scahill step down from The Intercept > Message-ID: > <cagrdzqvkoeje-vkeibbexvkz2v3ekwohdmsx9rc+bumqz25...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > thank you!! > > i just want to say that @jeremyscahill took a selfie with a (murdered) dead > body which no & i mean no journalist does - no one ... he is a very sick > capitalist fascist > > he has done more than this but i wont go on & on > >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:58 AM, Juan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 22:29:06 -0700 >> Seth <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> It's about damn time ;) >> http://chronicle.su/2015/03/07/greenwald-scahill-step-down-from-the-intercept/ >> >> >> is this some kind of stupid 'joke' ? > > > -- > Cari Machet > NYC 646-436-7795 > [email protected] > AIM carismachet > Syria +963-099 277 3243 > Amman +962 077 636 9407 > Berlin +49 152 11779219 > Reykjavik +354 894 8650 > Twitter: @carimachet <https://twitter.com/carimachet> > > 7035 690E 5E47 41D4 B0E5 B3D1 AF90 49D6 BE09 2187 > > Ruh-roh, this is now necessary: This email is intended only for the > addressee(s) and may contain confidential information. If you are not the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this > information, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this email without > permission is strictly prohibited. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/attachments/20150406/d562320f/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 07:16:13 +0300 > From: Александр <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Fwd: The West's Shame > Message-ID: > <CAEm6KbLSWXzGrDCxO=awjrcnktk5wm2+nrjamxommyc6q5a...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Brad Cabana > > The West's Shame > > There is something so bizarre, so inhumane about Western countries > boycotting the parade for the 70th anniversary of the Soviet victory over > Germany in World War II that I just had to write on it. Recently, the prime > minister of the United Kingdom announced he will not be attending the > parade. Previous to that, countries like Germany and the United States had > announced the same. It's only a parade you say? No it's more than that. > > The Soviet Union sacrificed 25 million people to defeat Nazi Germany in > World War II. A sacrifice beyond imagination, and far, far greater than all > the countries fighting Nazi Germany combined. In comparison, the Holocaust, > which is rightly remembered annually, claimed the lives of six million > people of the Jewish faith. These are really the two true tragedy's of > World War II unleashed on the world by Nazi Germany. The stories of Soviet > soldiers advancing without weapons to pickup the rifle of the next dead > soldier are well known. The bloodbath of Stalingrad, the siege of > Leningrad, the millions of Soviet soldiers killed and captured (only to > then die in POW camps) during the early days of the German invasion, and so > on, all markers of the brutality of man against his own, stand large in the > history of the world. In fact, the German invasion of the Soviet Union > stands as the largest military battle in the history of man. > > Yet, western leaders have decided to not attend the parade that is meant to > honour that sacrifice. When Britain announced it would not attend, well, > that's the straw that broke the camel's back frankly. Of all the countries > in the world, Britain was saved by the massive waves of young Soviet men > and woman that bled the German army white. Hitler would have crushed > Britain in short order if he had not diverted millions of German men to the > invasion of the Soviet Union. Crucially, the diversion of aircraft, > fighters and bombers, to the Soviet front saved Britain from the entire > annihilation of a full blown, continuous air campaign, and the subsequent > naval invasion that would certainly have occurred. In reality, the western > allies left Stalin almost alone in Europe to battle the Nazi's, and take > the majority of the casualties in doing so. By the time D-Day finally > arrived, the German army and air force was only a shadow of it's former > self as it existed in 1941. As bad and hard as it was for the allies to > march east through Europe to Berlin, without the Soviet people's sacrifice, > it would have never happened. > > It's a place of honour in human history. To quarrel with that is to go > beyond ignorance. To quarrel with that is the hateful and arrogant bastion > of the very seeds that caused World War II in the first place. And now, as > if history is repeating itself, Western leaders have entered that bastion > of ignorance and arrogance to punish Russia for the Ukrainian civil war. By > contrast, Russian president Putin, despite the ongoing conflict in Ukraine, > attended the 70th anniversary of the D-Day landings in France last year. He > was given the proverbial cold shoulder by western leaders, yet he subjected > himself to that, in honour of the sacrifice of the men of Canada, Britain > and the United States. He did not ignore the history or the price in blood > of that action. He honoured it. He put the sacrifice ahead of his political > position, and it could even be said his personal shunning. Now that the > time is here to do the same for the Soviet Union's dead, we cannot bring > ourselves to do the same. > > What that says about us is really quite obvious. It means we haven't > learned the lessons of history. That our political leadership has become so > petty, so detached from historical reality, that it attempts to rewrite the > history of 25 million souls. That is the danger of all of this. Russians > don't really need the West to honour their sacrifice. They know it all too > well. It's the West that needs to honour that sacrifice so it can clearly > see the dangers of war on a scale far more destructive than anything it > experienced on the western front, or anywhere else in history. Poland > started this train rolling by refusing to invite the Russian president to > the Holocaust remembrance at Auschwitz last year. This despite the fact > that the Soviet army liberated all of Poland, and specifically Auschwitz > from German armies. > > The actions of our western politicians say more about us than the Russians > could ever say themselves. They have portrayed us as people who refuse to > honour the dead, those that gave their lives in another time to defeat a > tyrant bent on world domination, and in doing so dishonour those men and > women. As the son of a young man, training in England, fighting in North > Africa, Italy, Holland, and Germany through those tumultuous years of war > and senseless slaughter, I recognize the Soviet sacrifice that probably > saved my Dad's life. How could you not? Yet, that is exactly what our > politicians are doing today. You don't have to be a lover of this country, > or that country to recognize and honour grave human injustice committed on > a massive scale. You just have to be humane, and subordinate your own bias > in the remembrance of the fallen. Is that really so hard? Isn't that what > is expected of us all? Wouldn't we expect that from our children? I've > never been so ashamed of the actions of our governments than I am now with > the boycott of that parade in Moscow. > > http://rocksolidpolitics.blogspot.ru/2015/03/the-wests-shame.html > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/attachments/20150406/728b5626/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 15:02:12 +1000 > From: Zenaan Harkness <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: The West's Shame > Message-ID: > <caosgnssncpbpdwum8-ebdmnumms7gtizxvf9mv3tegg1f1x...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > "The West", as the "western media" and those families who control "the > western media", have a lot to answer for indeed. > > Sadly, the cycle of famine war recovery wealth, has lead once again to > slothfulness, greed, corruption, impatience, pride and the fall (of > "the west") that we are now witnessing. It's an age old cycle on this > planet. > > Zenaan > > >> On 4/6/15, Александр <[email protected]> wrote: >> Brad Cabana >> >> The West's Shame >> >> There is something so bizarre, so inhumane about Western countries >> boycotting the parade for the 70th anniversary of the Soviet victory over >> Germany in World War II that I just had to write on it. Recently, the prime >> minister of the United Kingdom announced he will not be attending the >> parade. Previous to that, countries like Germany and the United States had >> announced the same. It's only a parade you say? No it's more than that. >> >> The Soviet Union sacrificed 25 million people to defeat Nazi Germany in >> World War II. A sacrifice beyond imagination, and far, far greater than all >> the countries fighting Nazi Germany combined. In comparison, the Holocaust, >> which is rightly remembered annually, claimed the lives of six million >> people of the Jewish faith. These are really the two true tragedy's of >> World War II unleashed on the world by Nazi Germany. The stories of Soviet >> soldiers advancing without weapons to pickup the rifle of the next dead >> soldier are well known. The bloodbath of Stalingrad, the siege of >> Leningrad, the millions of Soviet soldiers killed and captured (only to >> then die in POW camps) during the early days of the German invasion, and so >> on, all markers of the brutality of man against his own, stand large in the >> history of the world. In fact, the German invasion of the Soviet Union >> stands as the largest military battle in the history of man. >> >> Yet, western leaders have decided to not attend the parade that is meant to >> honour that sacrifice. When Britain announced it would not attend, well, > ... > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > cypherpunks mailing list > [email protected] > https://cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo/cypherpunks > > > ------------------------------ > > End of cypherpunks Digest, Vol 22, Issue 6 > ******************************************
