Propaganda is on-topic only insofar as it explores cointelpro, persona management, etc: not strictly crypto, but subversive and political (ab)uses of communications technology.
And, while we're on the subject, I suspect much of this pro-anything-not-West crap is likely to be just that: cointelpro to discredit the genuine content and discourage subscription/participation by a wider audience. It's pretty effective, I think. On 23 June 2015 21:51:19 GMT+01:00, Ted Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >I certainly think that geopolitics is not in general on topic for this >list. > >"Western governments" and "western propaganda" also don't seem to me to >be on topic for this list. This is not a list about propaganda or >governance. > >Since this list is unmoderated, I am sharing my discontent in the hopes >of demotivating further threads on this topic. > >That said, I guess cpunks was never good, it's meaningless to attempt >to >stop the shitstorm, etc., and so on. But now there are 2-3 posters who >continually post random conspiracy crap and have built an echo chamber >that totally drowns out any actual cypherpunking. > >Better posters (you know who you are), please stop encouraging this. > >On Tue, 2015-06-23 at 17:44 -0300, Juan wrote: >> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:05:20 -0400 >> Ted Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > What's the cypherpunk link in this? >> >> >> That was part of a discussion on the nature of western >> governments and western propaganda. >> >> Do you think that discussions on the nature of western >> governments are off-topic? Maybe banned? >> >> Maybe we should instead talk about how terrible the suffering >> of US military murderers is? >> >> paging Nick Econopouly <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> > >> > On Thu, 2015-06-18 at 19:41 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> > > >http://russia-insider.com/en/hey-obama-what-about-serbias-territoral-integrity/ri8092 >> > > >> > > Summary at bottom, summarizing shifting position of "west" over >> > > some time: "So let us recount the western position: >> > > - It claimed to uphold the sovereignty and territorial >integrity >> > > of other countries and the inviolability of borders in Europe >> > > - However, this did not extend to the sovereignty and the >> > > territorial integrity of Federal Yugoslavia which could be >trampled >> > > at will >> > > - Nonetheless, albeit the territorial integrity of Federal >> > > Yugoslavia itself wasn’t worth anything, the territorial >integrity >> > > of its constituent republics seeking independence was holy >> > > - Albeit the territorial integrity of the Yugoslav constituent >> > > republics of Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina was >holy, >> > > the territorial integrity of Serbia was not >> > > - Albeit Slovenes, Croats and Bosnian Muslims could leave >> > > Yugoslavia, Serbs could not leave Croatia and Bosnia >> > > - Albeit Serbs could not leave Croatia and Bosnia, Kosovo >> > > Albanians could secede from Serbia >> > > - Albeit Kosovo Albanians could secede from Serbia, Kosovo >Serbs >> > > could not secede from Albanian-run Kosovo >> > > - Albeit Kosovo could unilaterally secede from Serbia under >NATO >> > > military control, Crimea could not unilaterally secede from >Ukraine >> > > under Russian military control >> > > >> > > May world be spared hunger, plague and western principles. >> > > " >> > > >> > >> >> > >-- >Sent from Ubuntu -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
