On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Cari Machet <[email protected]> wrote:
> its religious thought to even utilize the word 'evil' let alone think in > those terms and religious thought is a capitalist parasite >>> read > nietzsche for fuck sake he wrote in the 1800's > > That's my point, glad we agree. > one of my arguments is that it is structurally unsound to rely on one > method >>> especially if built by your enemy - i look to nature as other > thinkers do/have and i think about buckminster fuller - his analysis of > panther dna making them vulnerable to extinction because it is all so/too > similar ... in any given situation i do not think in terms of one solution > ... i have used this analogy before ... sperm: there are lots of them in > one load ... they all race to get to the egg sure but, they actually help > each other to penetrate - they dont care who gets in as long as one of them > transforms the egg into a being (i mean i cant really speak for sperms in > general but it has been analysed like this)... thats their job ...they even > have been seen to help each other non-competative like :: this is the kind > of structures we need moreso not monolithic structures that blind us ... > its really a geometry problem for me... math > > OK, 'yes' monoculture is threatening and certain practices provide clear 'intelligence signals'. Unrestrained 'lateral thinking,' while intellectually stimulating and interesting, does not always map to fact. There's a step, where you rigorously research whether your theories are correct. but also it is all ethical to me as well : if my family was murdered by a > fucker i wouldnt go and use that fuckers infrastructure cause they made it > for me to use and sent some other fuckers around the globe selling it cause > like the fucker murdered my family i wont support them in any way ever > ....why would i talk myself into supporting the murderer of my family when > i could think about, invent or utilize other methods - its just really not > logical > This is an emotional argument, not a logical one. To continue the appeal to emotion, isn't it vaguely poetic? Using alternative methods are fine, but the existence of alternatives does not justify demonizing other approaches. > > > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Travis Biehn <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, just get a new DHCP lease - rock solid. >> >> This is actually pretty easy; First read the protocol spec then read the >> code. >> >> If there is a backdoor or vulnerability, please let everyone know. >> >> If you can do away with evils like centralized directory servers while >> retaining sybill resistance please publish your ideas. >> >> If your arguments are that the project is intrinsically evil, by virtue >> of the authors being tainted with 'reptilian money' - that's not really a >> technically robust. >> >> -Travis >> >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2015, 9:24 AM Cari Machet <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> i think there could be solutions utilized like easily shifting the ip >>> address of comp and router yourself in your own little hut > 'ghost' it but >>> not thru others .... pretty fucking simple i know but maybe effective in a >>> really different way than having the fake government of the US build >>> something and use people that are activists against them to make it work >>> also i think the infrastructure is too bulky >>> >>> i like to think about satelites (and thats all i will say about that) - >>> i dont know i would have to have a real think about solutions it is very >>> important to think about it and not just the problem for sure but i dont >>> think the methodology of tor is a solution i think it is a stoppage point >>> that people are not seeing beyond ... people dont think it has been >>> penetrated and i have no proof of that but maybe that isnt the main problem >>> for me ... structurally speaking it is a disaster ... the masses being >>> handed a tool in order to subvert the government??? as they say you cant >>> make this shit up >>> >>> i know that when i was in syria i could get a fucking video call in the >>> desert where there was nothing ... this was syria not a rich country per >>> say like at all so i think the choking of the communication system is super >>> in play ... if others dont think thats a problem then they need to educate >>> themselves ... do people that live in the US on this list even know that >>> the infrastructure of fiber optics that underlies the communications may >>> not even be utilized in their city and that the reason it is not used is >>> because the communication companies bought a contract with there city that >>> freezes it all up? please look into the chatanooga model if you dont know >>> about this 'freemarket' bullshit>>>> also fyi iraq had video calls >>> nationwide in 2000 or even before ... now i am not sure what tech they were >>> using i think radiowaves and shooting the signal over land that way but it >>> all points to a tremendous shut down of functionality .... not that it was >>> probably all that healthy for people but... >>> >>> sure we can write each other little words on this frame of >>> communications but see what happens when attempting to shift in a large way >>> ... like when they printed the 3d gun... people had to git fr USA & like >>> when barrett made project pm and this is a major reason i think there >>> should be as many solutions as possible not just one - not as easy for >>> gov/corp to take them out >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Juan <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 4 Aug 2015 22:36:00 -0700 >>>> coderman <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> > On 8/3/15, Juan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > > ... >>>> > > http://www.onion-router.net/History.html >>>> > > 1995: >>>> > > Initial work on Onion Routing begins, funded by ONR. >>>> > >>>> > back in this day, fully saturated ISDN pairs made for great zero >>>> > knowledge overlays, too. >>>> > >>>> > the real question is, what do you propose to do better? >>>> >>>> >>>> what I was getting at is that, if I'm not mistaken, syverson >>>> and co. claim to have 'invented' 'onion routing' >>>> >>>> but they didn't come up with the ideas and didn't even come up >>>> with the name apparently >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > if TCP Tor is just a jump toward datagram traffic analysis resistant >>>> > overlays, how little it matters what origins for this open source", >>>> > distributed, public infrastructure? >>>> > >>>> >>>> do you consider your governemnt to be a 'repressive regime' >>>> coderman? >>>> >>>> does tor protect people from your goverment's attacks? >>>> >>>> do you think tor helps the US government in any way? >>>> >>>> >>>> do you think it's 'hypotetically' acceptable to murder say a 100 >>>> people so that 1 million people can 'anonymously' browse >>>> their newspaper or favorite sports website? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > cooperation is the future. learn to do it least badly :P >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > best regards, >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cari Machet >>> NYC 646-436-7795 >>> [email protected] >>> AIM carismachet >>> Syria +963-099 277 3243 >>> Amman +962 077 636 9407 >>> Berlin +49 152 11779219 >>> Reykjavik +354 894 8650 >>> Twitter: @carimachet <https://twitter.com/carimachet> >>> >>> 7035 690E 5E47 41D4 B0E5 B3D1 AF90 49D6 BE09 2187 >>> >>> Ruh-roh, this is now necessary: This email is intended only for the >>> addressee(s) and may contain confidential information. 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