On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Jerry Leichter <[email protected]> wrote:
> the point of the attacks on cryptography have nothing to do with *their* 
> accuracy.  Truth and effectiveness in political debate have all too little to 
> do with each other.
>
> Remember when Microsoft used to attack Linux for being anti-capitalist?  
> Someone - I forget who - proposed using Microsoft marketing techniques 
> against them:  Every time anyone who wanted to help the campaign mentioned 
> "the Windows operating system", they should *always* say "the deeply flawed 
> Windows operating system".  Repeat a phrase often enough and it becomes part 
> of common knowledge.  This is how marketing works; this is how politics works 
> (not that it's easy to draw a line between them any more).
>
> The fact is, LE *is* trying to get the government to dictate how to build the 
> products sold to you and me and all the liberals and all the civil 
> libertarians and all the NRA members and all the Trump followers and everyone 
> else out there.  And they are trying to dictate that they be built in ways 
> that *hurt us as individuals*, in the name of what *they claim* is some 
> greater good.  Stopping that isn't going to happen by cryptographers talking 
> to other cryptographers about what a dumb idea "golden keys" are.  The most 
> effective way of stopping would be convincing those who are the natural 
> audience for the "help LE stop the bad guys" pitch to instead see the issue 
> the same way they see gun control (also pushed as a way to "help the LE stop 
> the bad guys").
>
> This is politics now, hence not really appropriate for this list - though 
> these political decisions will have profound impacts on how we will be 
> allowed to deploy crypto, so *some* discussion is unavoidable.
>                                                         -- Jerry

It's entirely appropriate and relavant because the crypto people and tech / code
world in general are too head down at the keyboard and haven't yet figured out
how stand up and win (forever), nor how to go AFK for a minute and and partner
with various potential armies. There's only so much you can do with a keyboard,
the rest awaits in the real world.

Subject: Reaching the Sheeple, Building a Cpunk Symbiot Army
https://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2015-November/010895.html

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