On 07/16/2016 03:32 PM, Bastiani Fortress wrote: > > An unbelievable night it was, yesterday :S I live in ankara the > capital, and our house shook with jet shockwaves and bombs till 5 a.m. > (could not get a proper sleep, obviously). > > Things seem to have settled down today. It was a very, very immature > and idiotically conducted coup attempt, mistakes were way too amateur, > especially considering turkish army's expertise on how to "restore > democracy" in its history. > > First off, as a very brief intro to power struggle in turkey; there > are secularist nationalists, which have been dominant ideologically in > state and military through all republic's history. Then erdogan's > islamist party won elections and in 14 years, first time in republic's > history, has managed to purge secularists from army, police > departments and judiciary system so extensively. Via show trials, > planted evidences, false accusations, etc., they have put all > secularist army personel in prison with accusations of coup attempts. > Some of the officers were not very innocent (army is known to have > ousted islamist govts before), but in overall, very few and immature > real evidence was expanded by way more lies, used to purge almost all > secularists in army. > > Then there is a religious sect following the cleric fethullah gulen > (who has been residing in pennsylvania for some time now). They have > been hand in hand with erdogan in coming to power and all of > secularist-purging operations all these years, they are also > ideologically compatible with erdogan against the modern, pro-western > secularists and other leftists. But eventually, they had come to a > power struggle with erdogan and went in full scale war with hım with > phone tapes disclosing massive corruption and hidden unlawful funds by > erdogan and his circle. Accusations and detention operations have been > exchanged and erdogan has come victorious from that too. (I will refer > to gulen organisation as "cemaat" from now on.) > > As any one with too much power and popularity, erdogan is now seeking > to secure even more power (to form a total one man dictatorship with > strong personality cult, to be precise) by changing the constitution > and fundamentals of republic. He could not manage to gather enough > political support (though he has a 45%-50% voter base) and > deliberately made the country into a living hell, letting massive > syrian refugee groups into country without proper preparations and > security (some of which are isis affiliated); breaking the peace talks > with kurd insurgents and provoking them by means of bloody military > operations into their cities; subtly (and sometimes openly) supporting > isis and not taking a strong stance against their terrorists inside > the borders (he constantly cracked down on leftist students and > intelligentsia whereas caught isis terrorists were being kept a few > days under detention and easily released). We have been enduring > frequent and horrible terror bombings at vital points in ankara and > istanbul for about a year now. Most people, unfortunately (this is > actually a classic, though) consolidating around him with extensive > propaganda and with hopes that he will provide a strong leadership to > stop this mayhem (with the irony, of course, that he is the one mostly > responsible for all this bloodshed). > > Now... > > The coup attempt was done yesterday, without any apparent support > whatsoever from opposition parties, civil organisations or foreign > countries. They could not manage to seize erdogan or any other govt > ofiicials. They could not manage to disrupt media or communications > (except a coup declaration from the national channel), whereas erdogan > managed to make a media coverage with teleconference, calling the > people to get down on streets and protest the rolling tanks. Coup > staff has bombed security and intelligence headquarters (they are very > loyal to erdogan), and eventually the parliament building itself with > jets. They made incredibly stupid moves, did not arrest any govt > personel, could not prevent media's pro-erdogan propaganda calling > people to streets, could not seize erdogan where even i myself could > keep track of his presidential aircraft from air traffic websites. No > leader for coup emerged, people could not even determine the ideology > of the rebels, lest show any support. In the end, it was ousted. Here > are the few theories for the coup attempt: > > 1- The coup was sincerely a coup, pulled off by still remaining few > secularist generals veeery clumsily and failed. > > 2- It was conducted by cemaat generals, knowing that they will also be > purged at the next defence counsel (poor translation?) in a desperate > attempt to hold on to their last chances. > > 3- It was mit (intel office of turkey, reputed to be loyal to erdogan > nowadays) falsely informing the generals with a secularist coup plan, > where they were given missions that will create terror but not > actually do any harm to erdogan's staff, claiming the critical jobs > like arresting erdogan, seizing media, etc. were allocated to *some > other general*. They took their parts with high hopes, only to > discover they were deceived and suddenly left with blood on their > hands with insufficient power to finish what they started. In > desparation, they threw everything they have, bombing the assembly > building and shooting around. This theory sounded like the most likely > to me. > > 4- It was a total hoax by erdogan. > > Whatever it was, we appear to be doomed now. Erdogan consolidated his > power, he's going to arrest whoever he likes and nobody's going to > question his rationale. His supporters have been brought down to > streets and are now highly provoked, possibly leading to random > violence and moblynching against minorities and opposers. He's gained > great sympathy from other rightwing voters (he's been using an > anti-coup rethoric all along his carreer, posing as the aggrieved of > constant aggression from military staff as an elected entity himself). > Calls to public to gather at the airport and guard erdogan were made > from mosques all through the night with religious verses (wtf, > really?! apparantly they like to depict this as a coup against their > invisible friend up in the skies). > > I am very worried for the countries' future, and for myself. This is > the current situation. Any comments are welcome. > >
I REALLY appreciate the backgrounder Bastiani. My take on Gulen is he'd just as soon stay in Pennsylvania... Rr > > 7:08 PM, July 16, 2016, Rayzer <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>>: > > > > On 07/16/2016 04:40 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: > > Consider searching the web for: > news Turkey coup d'etat > > Someone old told me coup d'etat's are common for Turkey, the > search > terms are: > > history Turkey coup d'etat > > Does the NATO's Turkey have nukes? > > > > http://nationalinterest.org/feature/turkey-secretly-working-nuclear-weapons-13898 > > > NOW, here's a 'conspiracy' theory... > > A number of Turkish soldiers are saying they thought the coup was a > drill... Of course You'd say that too if a firing squad or > beheading was > the other option. > > https://twitter.com/AP/status/754295122104348672 > > ON THE OTHER HAND Erdogan could be seen to be setting up a fake > coup to > use as excuse to kill of dissenting elements in the Turkish > Military who > say he's trying to create an islamist state and use the puny, > half-assed, undermined-from-the-git coup attempt by low-level officers > (patsies to you) to cement his power, as dictator, who allows the > supplying of ISIS, and whose son owns the trucks that > transport, the > refineries that process, the ships that carry to market, oil > stolen from > Iraq and elsewhere, again, by ISIS. > > Rr > > > > > -- > You’re not from the Castle, you’re not from the village, you are > nothing. Unfortunately, though, you are something, a stranger.
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