On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:20:35PM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > On 08/23/2016 10:46 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 09:25:00PM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > >> On 08/23/2016 08:37 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 09:08:19PM +0000, Sean Lynch wrote: > >>>> So I guess as far as Juan & garpamp, et al are concerned, these groups > >>>> are > >>>> also infiltrated by or working on behalf of the NSA, GCHQ, etc? Are they > >>>> about to experience mass disillusionment and exodus as well, just like > >>>> all > >>>> "non-spook" Tor relays are about to shut down because "everyone" who's > >>>> not > >>>> a spook is on Rapey Jakey's side? > >>> > >>> Sean, the above is a seriously offensive statement/question by you. > > So just what was so offensive? "Rapey Jakey"? I thought that was pretty > funny :)
Although it's good to be able to reach a point of being able to laugh about 'tough' topics, this phrase, in this context implies "I agree with the lynch mob rhetoric". It also condones the linguistic undermine and implicit compromise of those who have suffered actual rape, and encourages the social discourse in a direction which I personally find offensive and I say fosters an environment where actual rape is more likely to be brushed aside with "humour", and therefore makes the social environment more dangerous generally. That's a really bad thing. If JA committed rape, which he and others deny, then there -should- (say I) be a proper process for his victims to address their grievance. Nothing remotely like "addressing genuine grievances" has happened. And in this case, using the phrase "Rapey Jakey" at the moment in this context, linguistically encourages us to diminish such rape. If JA did not rape anyone, then "Rapey Jakey" slanders him personally - I don't understand why you find that humorous, but I guess if you guys want to laugh about it, that's your right. In either case, this use of the word "rapey" is to me offensive and really not in our nor anyone's interest. Yes it has hit a nerve. And yes, we need to lift our social and societal 'game' - we need to do better, by those rightfully accused as well as by those wrongfully accused. I am disappointed when we, as a 'community', fail in this way. Zenaan
