At 12:54 PM -0500 1/10/01, Declan McCullagh wrote: >[Jim sent me the below message directly without any indication that >it was also sent to the list. But from past experience, I know >better. Another example of not-quite-adequate Choatian social norms.] > >Anyway, Jim is conflating physical control over an instantiation of >IP with the rights conferred by IP law. If someone copies Microsoft >Word (or a Tom Clancy novel) onto a CDROM and gives it to me, I am >not liable. > >-Declan > > >At 11:36 AM 1/10/01 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: >> > (Hint: U.S. copyright law does not make mere possession or archiving >>> an offense. Try distribution, performance, etc.) >> >>Hint: WRONG. >> >>Simply possessing a paperback book that has had its cover removed as a >>sign of 'destroyed' status is in fact a crime. Used book stores that have >>them in stock can be charged accordingly. So, if I tear the cover off of a paperback book that I legally own (bought, for example), Choate's claim is that this "is in fact a crime"? Gee, so much for scienter. So much for proof of actual criminal action. So much for tort law. Jim, please call the police, as I have just torn the cover off of a book I own. Worse, I just cut the tags off of a mattress. Call before I commit more crimes. Fucking retard. --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED] Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns