btw, I'd suggest reading Phil Plaits 'Death from the Skies!'. In this
book he examines a couple of scenarios how the universe might end (among
a couple other ways how we could die). Very fun read.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 06:07:56PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 3:48 PM,  <xorc...@sigaint.org> wrote:
> > I find it difficult to believe in the heat death of the universe. The Big
> > Crunch makes sense to me. The universe expands for a time, and collapses.
> > Like breathing.
> > But continual expansion with the universe turning into some cold,
> > undefinable soup.
> 
> Current model really fucking cold heat death will occur. Yet if gravity
> is true, yes, no matter infintismal amount, you cannot blow past to
> escape it. Thus collapse, or at least steady state in case of repulse
> forces, is the required result.
> 
> It is sad that not even sci fi knows how to harvest from forcibly
> diminishing Kelvin, as to revert requires similar energy. But we
> will have fun till then, provided we get beyond Sol or the galaxy.

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