On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 18:05:44 +1100
Zenaan Harkness <z...@freedbms.net> wrote:


> 
> > 
> > > of to people who might then vote for his nobodys.
> > > If you want a vote you have to put it in everyday practical terms.
> > > No offense to the Juans's out there, just saying.
> > 
> >     No problem. I just explained why it's a mistake to demand
> >     explanations =P
> 
> Problem is, we're not starting from a blank slate.

        Yes, that is a big problem because people who've been
        indoctrinated since early childhood have no incentives to learn
        that what they've been taught is wrong. 


> 
> We have aggressors, carrying guns, extorting money, as our starting
> point.
> 
> What's being asked for (and no, I have no easy answers either), is how
> do we transition whilst minimizing interim aggression.


        I can't imagine a 'collective' transition. Official 'collective'
        entities, basically nation-states, are always moving in the
        opposite direction.  I suppose what is needed is a critical
        mass to set up something like the free NO-state project.



> 
> And no, neither your nor nobody is obliged to answer that question.
> There's merely a hope that we might find a sane pathway out of this
> mess we are collectively in.


        See above...

> 
> Good luck,

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