Milo Yiannopoulos planned to publicly name allegedly undocumented
students at UC Berkeley, endangering them. Debate over. Shutting him
down was legal and necessary and UC should have done it but they were
probably unaware of his intent. So locals and students did it.


Here's a good example of what happens if teaching staff does something
stupid like that.

> SAN JOSE — An Oak Grove High School PE teacher who allegedly told a
> student that he might be deported once Donald Trump is president has
> been placed on leave and is under investigation.
>
> The teacher, who hasn’t been publicly identified, spoke to a student
> who was refusing to stand as the national anthem played last week on
> the campus, Superintendent Chris Funk said.
>
> The teacher asked the student to stand. When the student refused, NBC
> Bay Area reported, the teacher said, “Good luck with being deported
> now that Donald Trump is president. … You guys had it better here than
> you will over there.”
>
> Other students witnessed the incident. One told NBC Bay Area, “We just
> stayed seated, quietly, respecting everybody, not saying any rude
> comments whatsoever.” The student added, “I was actually shocked and
> angry because I never thought I’d hear this coming from a teacher.”
>
> A student reported the incident to school officials, Funk said, and
> the East Side Union High School District intervened by placing the
> teacher on paid leave.
>
> Funk said that the teacher has been in the district for some time.
> Pending the outcome of the district’s investigation, the teacher could
> receive a letter of reprimand or be suspended, he said.
>
> In the aftermath of the election, the district has posted a letter on
> its homepage, saying that students deserve a secure environment to
> process the election results, and asking teachers to remain neutral,
> share information, listen to both sides of any issue and create a safe
> space in class and school for discussion.
>
> “No question that some of our students who are undocumented are
> concerned about deportation and what’s going to happen to their
> families,” Funk said.


http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/11/15/san-jose-teacher-allegedly-threatens-student-with-deportation-under-trump/

Rr


On 02/02/2017 05:24 PM, Razer wrote:
>
>
>
> On 02/02/2017 04:46 PM, jim bell wrote:
>> No, they can't.  And don't call me Shirley!!!
>>
>>               Jim Bell
>>
>
> In the state of California anything that might be construed as
> inculcating hate in students can be banned. Even the color or brand of
> clothes allowed on school property (Red/Blue/Ben Davis et al) that
> might cause hate between various sociocultural factions. (Blue-Norteno
> family roots/Red-Sureno family roots)
>
> Schools have pretty much free say over what is permissible within
> their facilities and with their equipment and ALWAYS have. In the 60s
> I can't even recount how many students were disciplined for publishing
> non-hateful anti-war content in school newspapers, by rote... That
> right has been consistently upheld by every court these cases appear in.
>
> ANY potential disruptor to school business or safety (according to the
> local board of edu) is simply and effectively banned. And considering
> most neonazi organizations are considered hate groups, promoting it is
> a no-no on school property. Promoting racism is certainly a no-no, and
> whether the students Moron was going to "Document" are "Undocumented"
> according to his wrong opinion, they ARE attending UCB LEGALLY and
> have a right to be protected from his vilification on school grounds.
>
> Rr
>
>
>
>>
>> From: Razer <g...@riseup.net>
>> To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org
>> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 4:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: Statement from a Berkely Antifa FashBash participant
>>
>>
>> That's right. Schools have BROAD authority, and hate speech...
ESPECIALLY the sort that might lead to BULLYING, surely can be limited.
>>
>> On 02/02/2017 04:32 PM, jim bell wrote:
>>> I will add:   
http://www.firstamendmentschools.org/freedoms/faq.aspx?id=12993
>>>
>>> May schools limit the time, place, and manner of student expression?
>>> Yes, as long as the time, place, and manner regulations are
reasonable and nondiscriminatory.
>>> The U.S. Supreme Court has said that "laws regulating the time,
place or manner of speech stand on a different footing than laws
prohibiting speech altogether."1First Amendment jurisprudence provides
that time, place, and manner restrictions on speech are constitutional
if (1) they are content neutral (i.e., they do not treat speech
differently based on content); (2) they are narrowly tailored to serve a
governmental interest; and (3) they leave open ample alternative means
of expression.
>>> Courts will generally grant even more deference to time, place, and
manner restrictions in public schools because students do not possess
the same level of rights as adults in a public forum. However, the time,
place, and manner regulations must still be reasonable. This means that
school officials could limit student distribution of material to certain
locations and at certain times, but those regulations would need to be
both reasonable and nondiscriminatory.
>>> Notes
>>> 1 Linmark Associates, Inc. v. Township of Willingboro, 431 U.S. 85
(1977).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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