On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 15:52:28 -0400 z9wahqvh <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Shawn K. Quinn <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Maybe funded, as in past tense. The current Tor project is not > > dependent at all on US government funding that I can see. If you > > can prove otherwise, please post the proof. > > > > proof is right there on Tor's own site. Thanks! So you did shawn quinn's homework =) I was expecting him to post the relevant data but of course expecting even a shred of intellectual honesty from shawn quinn is...very naive or, I admit, outright stupid. > there is still substantial US > government funding. according to the Tor Project "Sponsors" page ( > https://www.torproject.org/about/sponsors.html.en), current funders > include: > > -- the Open Technology Fund (https://www.opentech.fund/page/faq), a > subsidiary of the Broadcasting Board of Governors > (http://www.bbg.gov/, https://www.bbg.gov/who-we-are/mission/), a > long-time sponsor of Tor, and the US government agency that sponsors > the various "Radio Free" projects and has deep ties to CIA and other > parts of the intelligence apparatus; -- the National Science > Foundation, the science funding body of the Federal government. > > Other funders who might raise red flags due to relatively deep > involved with both government and corporate power bases include SRI > International, a non-profit that works closely with the US government > on many projects, Media Democracy Fund, and Google. > > of the direct US govt funders it is probably OTF that is most > concerning & the one that's been discussed by journalists and others. > OTF is a... very weird organization, and it's been the main target of > those who've criticized Tor's funding, other than past direct > military funding. > > NSF is pretty basic-science oriented and the grants that funded those > are publicly available & probably not for general operating funds. > > also of note is that while that page says US State Dept funding ended > in 2016, for some reason it remains listed under "Current sponsors." > hard to tell what "current" means since the page isn't dated. at any > rate, State was still a funder as of the latest annual Financial > Report. > > - z
