Three founders of cypherpunks, Tim May, Eric Hughes, John Gilmore, covered the full political spectrum of extreme right to extreme left. Shared common ground of unlimited viewpoints, denied list moderation, opposed censorship of any kind. Maybe exhibited a tad of masculine aggressiveness in propounding their views and castigating opponents who favored rigged forums, orgs, coms and govs. Happily, a couple had sufficient wealth to resist corrupting bribery of careers, networking, publicity. Cypherpunks was named by a female, bestowing humor, humility and mock audacity to counter overmuch seriousness, pride and dog-eat-dog profitablility that has overtaken the digital enterprse (thought two wealthy came by lifetime comfort thanks to early mining of the 2nd California gold rush).

Imagine if Apple and Google, among umpteen others, had adopted the cpunks model of widest diversity rather the narrowest favored by exploiters of popular gullibility to excessively enrich a few.

Ironic that cypherpunks beloved code is the principal weapon for this global exploitation, now become genocidal through proliferation of electronic devices to spy on citizens in order to milk their yearnings. Trump hardly original with this dictatorial betrayal, indeed is one of the lesser evil doers.

At 07:01 AM 8/6/2017, you wrote:
On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 05:09:38PM +0800, James A. Donald wrote:
> On 2017-08-06 13:39, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > as is pretty widely known publicly -- Google's
> > internal discussion culture is extremely robust, and overall I
> > consider that to be good for Google and its users.
> At google, all opinions from the frothing at the mouth biting mad
> genocidal left to the biting mad genocidal left may be freely
> expressed, and frequently are.


Nicely put :)

(BTW, that quote from from a (((free speach "advocate"))), not

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