> On Sep 14, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Georgi Guninski <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 01:10:58PM -0400, John Newman wrote: >> These "ethical hacker" degree programs are, IMO, basically a scam. >> I've screened ppl for interviews at work and basically learned to ignore >> anyone whose only significant qualification is one of these programs... >> >> Amazing how they can get certified and not even know the diff >> between the passwd & shadow file, or su vs sudo, or the most >> BASIC shit... >> > > It is highly profitable to be CISO (chief info security officer), > read that salaries are 1M euro/year. Probably such positions require as > many certificates as possible. >
Yeah I'm sure a lot of CISOs have their CISSP. I doubt many bother with any of the shady "ethical hacker" crap, but I could be totally wrong. I don't see a whole lot of value in the CISSP either, personally. I do have my CCNA from like 15 years ago, and I'm also Sun E-10k certified, though I've never touched such a device in my life ;). It was a requirement that a certain number of employees get the cert at a previous job for them to maintain some reseller bullshit or something, I don't remember ... ;) Fucking classes are useless. If you want to study, get a EE or CS degree (or one of the newer mash ups that wasn't around when I went to college, like a BS in Computer Engineering). Obviously it's not a vocational thing like the ethical bullshit, but probably more valuable. IME best ppl are often total autodidacts.
