On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 02:43:27AM -0400, Steve Kinney wrote: > > > On 09/25/2017 06:07 PM, jim bell wrote: > > On Monday, September 25, 2017, 12:54:38 PM PDT, Steve Kinney > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 09/25/2017 02:18 PM, jim bell wrote: > > > >>Enigmail imported a public key 598CAF689C6D998F, which I would bet a > > nickel is Jim's - but the message above returned "BAD signature from Jim > > Bell <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>" > > > >>Curses, foiled again! > > > > > > Yes, Yahoo as a email client is appearing to me to be increasingly > > frustrating. Years ago, I recognized that it was technically incompetent > > and hopelessly PC. ?? ??But its mail is terrible. ?? > > ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??Jim Bell > > Once Upon A Time, I got so damned tired of Yahoo! "mail" that I > registered a domain name and got a web hosting account /just/ for real > e-mail service. It was WAY worth it. Shameless plug: For hosting I > like Pair Networks a lot.
I still use a hosting company out of my home town, in good ol' Tejas. But I did something very similar, except I maintain all the mailer software and the system itself. It's nice to have full control over your domain / website / nameserver / mailserver / whatever, if you can spare the minmimal amount of time to get it up and keep it running. > > More fun: Thunderbird speaks POP, IMAP and lately, even integrates with > GMail and Yahoo! if so required. The Enigmail plugin makes crypto > functions e-z, even has a wizard for making brand new keys, as a > mail-oriented front end for GPG. > Mutt speaks IMAP and also works quite well with a local Maildir box, if you happen to be running it on your mail server (and it's particularly fast with larger boxes when you've enabled header cache - I recommend lmdb as the backend). And it does GPG/PGP nicely with no need for plugins, just a few config lines which can be quickly found on google.. Of course, it's not everyone's cup of tea, and maybe I'll revisit Thunderbird some day.. I generally use either mutt or whatever mail client I'm stuck with according to which phone I happen to have on me at the time. > Reasonable security and reliability != difficulty and complexity for the > end user; as far as I can tell the belief that things are the opposite > of that is a product of 30 years of snake oil vendors disparaging > simple, effective professional tools. I'm sure this is true. I just like fucking around with the system :P
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