On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 09:47:23 +0000 (UTC)
jim bell <jdb10...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, December 22, 2018, 7:06:34 PM PST, juan <juan....@gmail.com>
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> > From: tc...@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)
> > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 11:06:29 PDT
> >>>> To: cypherpu...@toad.com
> >>> Subject: Some (Pseudo)Random Thoughts
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> >> Networks are multiplying beyond
> >> any hope of government control,
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> > prophetic words. Except the prophesy was 100% wrong =) =(
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> But I wouldn't blame Tim May.
To be fair, here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcC0RNsallc is Tim
May stating
"The US and other societies around the world are facing a turning
point, a fork in the road where one path leads to a surveillance society
effectively where people have television cameras recording their actions and
conversations on a computer, all their transactions at stores, everything is
completely tracked.
The other path, the other fork in the road moves in a direction where
governments can't even collect taxes anymore because they don't know what
interactions people are making. People are buying things and information from
other countries and they won't even know in what countries the transactions are
taking place."
That's a 1997 japanese documentary about crypto. By the way, looks like
the japanese 'forgot' to include you Jim. Then again, the video comes from the
japanese government...
> 26 years is "forever" in technology. 26 years ago, very few people had even
> heard of the "Internet".
Actually in the last 26 years there hasn't been any significant
'technological' change *at all*. The only thing that happened is that
microelectronics got relatively cheaper.
But as Tim May himself makes it clear, the very serious threat to
freedom that 'technology' represents was well known at that time.
And it was even better known and explained in 1962
Aldous Huxley - The Ultimate Revolution (Berkeley Speech 1962)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WaUkZXKA30
And in 1948 - 1984.
And in 1931, Huxley again.
And speaking of the internet being unknown, well it's funny that the
internet was very well described already in 1909
THE MACHINE STOPS by E.M. Forster (1909)
http://archive.ncsa.illinois.edu/prajlich/forster.html
And lastly in 1895, another prediction of the 'progressive'
'accomplishments' of 'technology'.
The Time Machine by H. G. Wells
http://gutenberg.org/ebooks/35
And all that is off the top of my head. I'm sure there must be more...
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> >> bandwidths are skyrocketing, CPUs are
> > >putting awesome power on our desktops,
> > >PGP is generating incredible
> >> interest, and social trends are making the time right for crypto
> > >anarchy.
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> >And yet, 25 years later, we are closer than ever to
> >crypto-techno-totalitarianism.
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> Don't blame me!
Haha, I don't blame you =P
> I told everyone in 1995 how to get rid of all government. I wouldn't have
> been surprised if it had taken 10 years, but so far, it's been 23 years.
> Ever heard the joke whose punchline is, "He sent two boats and a helicopter!
> What more did you want?"
> https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fumbling-change/200905/two-boats-and-helicopter-thoughts-stress-management
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Haha, the joke seemed somewhat familiar, but I didn't remember all of
it.
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