On 2019-03-07 06:59, Punk wrote:
On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 17:02:41 +0000 (UTC)
jim bell <jdb10...@yahoo.com> wrote:



I consider it virtually axiomatic that there is no invention that can be used 
purely for helping freedom, or used purely for harming freedom.�

        True,  objects are morally neutral. They can be used for good or to 
harm people. Scientific knowledge is usually neutral as well.


.But I think there tends to be a bias in the system that allows individuals to 
use inventions FOR freedom.�

        Which system are you referring to? The system of nature? Western 
political systems? Or?

Capitalist economy, as it has existed for thousands of years. Each technological advance gives the state more means of control, and the individual more means of resisting control. Individuals, however, are naturally more numerous and more technologically advanced that governments, and there are a lot of private businesses.

Soviet Union used to have armed guards on photocopiers.

When I went to Cuba, if a Cuban wanted to make a phone call, he had to go to a police station with a policeman visibly listening in on the line so that he would not even think of saying something he should not say.

Obviously point to point and one to many communication is liberating, as we can tell by the efforts of terror states to control them.

The primary threat to privacy today is giant corporations in the pocket of the government sweet talking private individuals into *voluntarily* handing over their data. For example viber by default backs up all your viber messages in the clear to google drive, where the greatest AI in the world does a pattern match for topics of interest.

But, on the other hand, encryption and point to point communication is inherently resistant to the state. I just did a bunch of transactions by bitcoin that were either politically incorrect, circumvented government regulation, or both. Bitcoin plus encrypted messaging gives me liberty that no one used to have.

Twitter censors, but gab does not. Viber theoretically encrypts, but then cheerfully backs up all your messages in the clear to the worst possible location, but Whatsapp really is encrypted.

Giant corporations tend to be in the pocket of the state, but this creates room for smaller businesses and corporations to compete with them. Google is losing its grip after purging all its smartest engineers for mansplaining. All its new products are crap, its self driving car runs into people, and its AI is getting dumber.

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