On Saturday, June 15, 2019 8:38 AM, jim bell <[email protected]> wrote:
> In the mid-1990's I thought of a way that ordinary DRAM could be combined > with a set of cached columns, internal to the DRAM chip to implement the > caches in the DRAMs themselves. To simplify a bit, ordinary DRAMs of the > mid-1990's era (say, a 4M x 1) might have had 2048 rows by 2048 columns. A > row address is present, RAS falls, and a row of data is read from the storage > cells. The data is put in the column storage, and one bit is read (for read > cycles) or written (for write cycles). > > My idea was that instead of having only a single column of storage, the chip > would have 4 or 8 or even more of storage. Access to main memory in a > computer tends not to be truly 'random', but is localized: Program > instructions, stack(s), data area(s), etc. A given column of storage would > be relinquished by means of some LRU (least recently used) algorithm. I > think most programs, when running, would statistically limit themselves to 8 > data areas over periods of time of a few thousands of accesses. > > The main reason this should be superior is that the data path between the > DRAM array and the cache columns would be internal to the DRAM chip, say, > 2048 bits wide (in the example above; probably much wider in modern 4Gbit+ > DRAMs. ) > > I don't know whether they've done anything like this. > Jim Bell Great question, I hold deference to your opinions due to your known legal troubles. Perhaps the fact you even dare email me even increases your worthiness. I wonder if it is the same reason ECC checking is done in RAM instead of the processor. It seems incredibly unlikely that a sufficient number of altered bits would occur over the lifetime of the chip to result in incorrect data be returned. Afterall, non-ECC is fine (unless you use ZFS), and the probability of receiving a slightly different bit of data over HTTP used to be pretty high at according to "When The CRC and TCP Checksum Disagree" So RAM is not the most likely source of errors, and being able to correct errors at refresh is sort of strange given the cost in die area.
