On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 10:38:55PM -0300, Punk - Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 11:03:59 +1100
> Zenaan Harkness <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 06:58:57PM -0300, Punk - Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> > > 
> > >   courtesy of tor scum dingledine and matheson and a GCHQ guy, danezis 
> > > who now works for facebook-NSA as well. Wait, facebook, nsa, gchq, 
> > > university of london, etc so many aliases for the same mafia. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   anyway :  https://www.mixminion.net/minion-design.pdf
> > 
> > Have not begun to read that yet, 
> 
>       there's a good deal of handwaving bullshit in there 
> 
> "The adversary can delay messages...The efficacy of this attack is poorly 
> understood, but
> it may well be quite damaging" 
> 
>       so they admit that their own fucking system is 'poorly understood' by 
> their own fucking selves and may be 'quite damaged' - well I guess that's at 
> least half honest. 
> 
> 
> "Dummy traffic is an old approach to improving anonymity, but its efficacy is 
> still not well analyzed." 
> 
>       oh really? 
> 
> "We need stronger intuition about how to use dummy messages."
> 
>       ...stronger...intuition...?
> 
> "While many people have speculated about the benefits of dummy traffic, we 
> have not yet seen any  convincing analysis." 
>       ....
> 
> 
> "Exit attacks - Use the mix network to send hate mail" 
> "ISPs do not tolerate systems that potentially deliver hate mail" 
> 
> 
>       ...'hate mail'? agents of the child murdering pentagon like dingledine 
> are worried about 'hate mail'...?
> 
> 
>       bottom line for me is that the system is (a lot) more complex than I 
> expected - and doesn't seem too reliable either. 
> 
> 
>       The 'acknowledgments' section is kinda 'intersting' too....
> 
>       cohen and 'zooko' wilcox get mentioned and..."We further thank all the 
> unnamed cypherpunks out there who have worked on remailer issues for the past 
> decades." 
> 
> 
>       isn't the collaboration between 'cypherpunks' and the pentagon quite 
> touching. 

Indeed.

covfefe net is the UDP network layer chaff fill, packet switched
network.

This is where chaff fill - those "dummy messages" mentioned above -
needs to be done, in the network layer.
The reason?  Once available, any "message" or "stream" type can layer
on top (including TCP) - the nature of a network layer of course.

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