On Tue, Nov 05, 2019 at 05:26:34PM +0000, jim bell wrote: > On Tuesday, November 5, 2019, 04:11:33 AM PST, John Newman <j...@synfin.org> > wrote: > > On November 5, 2019 7:44:48 AM UTC, grarpamp <grarp...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> if anyone > >> reading this has their own copies of the 1990s archives, I'd love to > >have > >> them. I can't make any promises about when I'll be able to work on > >> processing them, but rest assured I will take great care of those > >archive > >> files > > > >>Similarly, whatever is received here sits pending header anon, > >>and merging. Merge msgs to a standard isn't much work > >>depending on liberties taken, it's mostly get around to it, > >>so the public sources sit pending that too, which seems > >>the status of a few such projects that are busied out. > >>Now If another nice unix mailbox and or some news spool, > >>made its way here, that could be further motivational to lint > >>and merge everything... If nothing turns up by year end I > >>could reach out to sources, maybe even 1-800-NSA-DISK ;) > >>Other old lists could be returned from such queries, but > >>are probably already in well known textfiles archives already. > > > >>Then there's the GoogleGroups tragedy. > > > >>Anyway, if Jim's stuff ever pops up I'll post it. > > >Maybe the feds have an archive... > I already thought of that, but it seemed so obvious... > Somewhere in that Utah multi-exabyte data complex... > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWySZF709Kg > > > > >... we can FOIA out of them ;) > >Haha, doubtful. > Which version? The later, tampered-with version, or the earlier, correct > version? Yet another "haha". > But that would actually be a seriously good idea. It would show what the > actual (we hope!) original data looked like, but it would also document the > history of various altered versions as they publicly appeared. I haven't > tried to access the Wayback Machine yet, but did those venona files ever get > scraped? Data point: The government's original Venona project was shut down > in October 1980, and eventually declassified in 1995. Hence, a good excuse > for making some files of old information named "venona". > I should also mention the 'coincidence' of my July-2003 (re-)filing of my > lawsuit, with (I believe) a recent reference to the CP venona files, date > 2003. Remember, the Feds would have read that lawsuit then, and a much less > extensive version a year earlier, and it was at least at that point that > they knew they might be exposed. Making the CP, or at least the portion > dealing with me and AP would have been a plausible response. > Note: In addition to Wire Fraud and Evidence Tampering, they were > guilty of Obstruction of Justice. And probably a few dozen other > statutes as well. > Jim Bell
A haiku, for you: Already hinted at. Not if done, by court order. Arse surely covered.
