I've been seeing Jitsi mentioned a fair amount - don't know anything about it, beyond what you'll see here:
https://jitsi.org/ Kurt On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 12:32 PM Douglas Lucas <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey cypherpunks, > > So what video chat options are there that are less privacy violating and > social graphing than Zoom, Skype, etc, while still being at least > somewhat available to the everyday user? Imagine two use cases: > > 1. Audiovideo chat between Alice and Bob: they want to watch an online > movie together whether by sharing a screen or some other method, and > then have sexy times later by same audiovideo chat. Imagine further that > Bob uses Linux laptop and knows more or less what he's doing, while > Alice uses Windows or Apple or her standard-issue smartphone or w/e and > doesn't want to spend her little weekend time off paidwork trying to > configure stuff to meet some faraway incel's expectation of flawless > fantasy security. > > 2. A video panel or Q&A being hosted by your local friendly anarchist > bookstore. Maybe it needs 3-5 people on a panel talking, their famous > faces visible on the screen along with their audio while they debate > each on internecine leftist conflicts that distract from far more > rational propaganda of the deed, while the 20 people in the audience, > including people of all sorts of demographics who have a hard enough > time paying their bills online, have their audio and video forcibly off > so there's not random beeps and bloops and toddler singing during the > panel, but the audience could still type in Q&A questions or whatever. > It would also be cool if there was a film screening option -- imagine an > anarchist bookstore that prior to covid19 had been doing weekly film > screenings offline in their brick and mortar location, but now wants to > do something similar online, while making it hopefully accessible for > people without intense computer skills. > > How are Signal and Wire for the above? > > My big picture understanding has for a long time been that, 1. perfect > security is snake oil, the top spy agencies can crack anything if they > want given enough time and targetting interest, but that's not typically > relevant to the above use cases unless you're a Supreme Court justice or > an incel fantasizing about being James Bond, 2. encryption makes data > packet size much bigger, and large data size is already a problem with > video in cleartext, so there never has been a really good solution to > this problem. However #2 was my understanding as of like 5 years ago, so > I'm curious if some new solution has come out. > > It looks like EFF is fairly useless and using Zoom themselves. I suppose > if they're not gonna go after something meaningful, like how the > corporate voting gear in the US is closed source, they have to spend > that sweet Papa Omidyar cash and prestige somehow and produce little > guides about how to toggle your Zoom settings. Afte > > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/what-you-should-know-about-online-tools-during-covid-19-crisis > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/cc-backgrounds-video-calls-eff > https://ssd.eff.org/ > > Guides by Riseup Networks don't have much on video understandably > https://riseup.net/en/security/resources > https://riseup.net/en/security > > Prism Break mentions something called Jami I've never heard of > https://prism-break.org/en/all/ > > And yeah, Signal and Wire...? I know everything is fucked but using > something less bad for the use cases outlined above seems better than > diving headfirst into whatever the worst popular solutions are. > > Thanks! > > Doug >
