Possibly useful advice for @gmail users below, also some list diagnostics: On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 03:20:50PM -0700, Mirimir wrote: > On 06/18/2020 02:29 PM, Se7en wrote: > > On 20-06-18 14:23:02, Mirimir wrote: > >> Thanks. I wasn't paying attention, but I did notice the warning about my > >> list membership being disabled: > >> > >>> Your membership in the mailing list cypherpunks has been disabled due > >>> to excessive bounces > >> > >> I'm not sure whether that was a cypherpunks server issue, or a Riseup > >> issue, which was perhaps triggered by a cypherpunks server issue. > > > > The list admin published a few days ago that the list was experiencing > > trouble and has been rectified. You must not have recieved that > > message. Check the public archive. > > Looking in the public archive, the first hint of a problem was Georgi > Guninski's "pong" and Greg Newby's reply at Jun 15 05:25:59 PDT 2020: > > https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2020-June/081025.html > https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2020-June/081026.html > > Then there's the message from Greg at Jun 16 19:39:50 PDT 2020, saying > that the "the list was bouncing all day today (after around 9am US > Eastern Daylight Time)" and that "[t]hings now seem to be fixed": > > https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2020-June/081030.html
That was a temporary 13-hour problem caused by a specific misconfiguration I applied. There is no indication that mail delivery problems before that are related. > But GTI.H and Georgi Guninski both reported on Jun 17 that they still > weren't getting list messages to Gmail accounts: > > https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2020-June/081042.html > https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2020-June/081043.html > > I got the last message before today at Jun 14 14:38:29 PDT 2020: > > https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2020-June/081016.html > > I got the membership disabled message at 18 Jun 2020 00:15:00 -0700, and > it said: > > > Your membership in the mailing list cypherpunks has been disabled due > to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated > 18-Jun-2020. You will not get any more messages from this list until > you re-enable your membership. You will receive 2 more reminders like > this before your membership in the list is deleted. > > That is, messages to me were bouncing from late Jun 14 through Jun 17. There were a ton of bounces from @riseup.net (there are several subscribers, not only you). I suspect that this WAS due to the misconfiguration I did, but I didn't save the 450+ bounce notifications. You should be able to reenable your subscription as directed... let me know if you run into trouble. > Anyway, it's not a big deal. I'm just curious whether bouncing started > earlier, perhaps on Jun 14, and why Google and Riseup kept bouncing > messages after Greg fixed the cypherpunks server. Here's the important part (saved for the end): For @gmail.com users, I experimented by subscribing a gmail address to the list. I found that MOST (not quite all) messages were flagged as spam and therefore did not arrive in my inbox. I flagged as "not spam" to extract them from the spam folder, which might train gmail. But the approach I suggest is to create a filter in gmail. This is easy in the Web interface, but I don't know about other clients. Simply make a filter so that messages with "list:(cypherpunks.lists.cpunks.org)" or to/cc cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org are never flagged as spam. - Greg