On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 01:26:23AM +0200, [email protected] wrote:
> Jun 20, 2020, 23:44 by [email protected]:
>
> > imagine a fully self contained (by extension, fully decentralized!) 
> > technology...
>
> Fully self-contained and fully decentralized are mutually exclusive, change 
> my mind.
> 
> > ...remove these errors via second sight over your shoulder...
> >
> Are you talking about the errors that people make while interacting in the 
> social world? Wtf is second sight and who's looking over my shoulder? 
> 
> 
> > a great equalizer for the common person, as they interact with society!
>
> So are guns.

A good example.


> > the fact that we've built technology infrastructures around centralized 
> > control and end-user antagonistic devices is no inherent flaw of 
> > technology... 
>
> The inherent flaw in technology is that every new kind, from the cotton gin 
> to the smartphone, has been wielded as a weapon over the many to siphon money 
> and power to the few. 

True.


> It's true that objects have no inherent moral standing but that's missing the 
> point. There's no inherent flaw in a handgun, but that doesn't mean that 
> there isn't a problem. And don't take me the wrong way, I like guns.

And so if the inventors or gunpowder, and of guns, and of lathes, and of 
honing, and etc, had each had a definitive moment in time where they could heve 
-not- done their particular invention, ought they have so buried their 
invention?


> > ...the aggregate errors of fallible humans choosing convenience and cheap, 
> > again and again.
> >
> > redirecting human effort toward human-centric decentralized technology left 
> > as an exercise for the reader. ;)
>
> I can generally agree with this. The continual choice of cheap and easy that 
> the end user makes is beginning to bite them back. Decentralized technology 
> at the moment harder to use if not more expensive but is much less 
> victimizing. 

Possibly so.

Perhaps a fundamental issue is "end users" choosing "shiny/ enslaving/ 'no' 
cost to me" over "liberating/ less featureful/ requires more personal effort"?

We are all end-users of many many products, so "what choices have I made today 
or this week" ... "how have I communicated with another today or this week, in 
any way which may effect their or my thinking about freedom" ...

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