On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 10:30:54PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 07:18:48PM -0300, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> > > On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 21:59:10 +0000
> > > таракан <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > ... [ideology?] ...
> > >   so going back to your comments on ideology, notice how cypherpunks are 
> > > just technocrats whose main interest is 'technology', not freedom. 
> > 
> > 
> > Freedom is a great foundation for any ideology worth embracing.
> > 
> > We need (?may be) an antidote to gen-me's "yes, freedom is my right to live 
> > a 100% self centered nihilistic selfish existence", since when the majority 
> > of fertile females just ride the cock carousel, we end up with very low 
> > fertility and rapidly declining population (masking the oligarchy's 
> > infiniggimmigration).
> > 
> > For a leg up on the ontological/epistemological foundations of any 
> > political theory, Dugin might be half a start to thought and/or discussion:
> > 
> >    Fourth Political Theory: shortest presentation
> >    
> > https://www.geopolitica.ru/en/article/fourth-political-theory-shortest-presentation
> > 
> > [Heady, but a comprehensive overview to kick off with - only half way 
> > through here and had to take a break; resonating so far with the 
> > fundamental of the fact of "being" (sort of like existence, but more about 
> > meta awareness - reminds of the logical conclusion of the 'primary unit of 
> > authority' yet to meaningfully reach 'the individual' (in our politics at 
> > least)).]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Fact: I exist.
> > 
> > Fact: By virtue of my existence, I am with the right to continue to exist, 
> > the right to do those things necessary to perpetuate my existence (grow and 
> > hervest plants, farm animals, collect water, build shelter, travel, trade).
> > 
> > Fact: I am with existence, awareness, intention, will, mind, body, spirit, 
> > emotions, desires, fears, abilities and surely more...
> > 
> > Fact: I am with awareness to the degree that I am aware; awareness is an 
> > individual experience; the experience of awareness may be vastly different 
> > for different individuals.
> > 
> > Fact: I am able to en-vision; by this capacity, with will and action, I may 
> > create, and I am with the right to create that which I choose to create.
> 
> 
> This is apropos, from another Dugin piece, could have been written by Juan :) 
>  :
> 
> The War on Russia in Its Ideological Dimension
> https://www.geopolitica.ru/en/article/war-russia-its-ideological-dimension
> 
>   .. The only freedom of choice in the kingdom of global liberalism
>   is that between Right liberalism, Left liberalism or radical
>   liberalism, including far-Right liberalism, far-Left liberalism and
>   extremely radical liberalism. As a consequence, liberalism has been
>   installed as the operational system of Western civilization and of
>   all other societies that find themselves in the zone of Western
>   influence. It has become the common denominator for any politically
>   correct discourse, and the distinguishing mark which determines who
>   is accepted by mainstream politics and who is marginalized and
>   rejected. Conventional wisdom itself became liberal. ...


The reference to Dugin popped up in a classic Pepe Escobar piece,
which would be almost criminal to fail to mention:

   Escobar: Turkey & The Clash Of Civilizations
   Pepe Escobar via The Asia Times,
   2020-07-18
   https://asiatimes.com/2020/07/clash-of-civilizations-revisited/
   https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-turkey-clash-civilizations

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